Re: MD Bottom Up Morality

From: Jonathan Marder (marder@agri.huji.ac.il)
Date: Wed Jan 05 2000 - 13:02:06 GMT


Hi Walter, JC,

WALTER
> My take on this is that the Good is united with the Moral by the
individual
> proces of broadening the perspective one has. I see this broadening as
moral
> stages a person goes through in his/her life. ...

I completely agree with this, and wrote something similar in the other forum
last November
( ref: http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_focus/9911/0010.html)
I was responding to a "backwards walk" exercise suggested by David T., and
noted the increasing perspective which comes from stepping back. To quote
from my own post:

>we are obligated to go on "stepping backwards" to widen
>our view. How far to go? As far as one can go without falling,
>and without losing site of the objective.

JC wrote
>Morality is the continuum or a line and Good is the direction ON the line.
This seems to me rather trivial, so perhaps I miss the point. It seems to me
that morality and good refer to the same scale, which has a positive and a
negative direction. However, this reminds me of something that I once wrote
about Pirsig's famous "hot stove" example. My point was that the initial
quality sensation (DQ if you like) isn't really good vs. bad, but the just
registering of a sensation. The classification of the experience as good or
bad comes a fraction of a second later. My preferred example is diving into
freezing water: the shock is immediate, but it takes a fraction longer
before one can categorise the experience as exhilarating (positive) or
downright horrible.
To get back to JC's point, I do agree that there is an initial stage of
recognising the "line", and then a process of orienting it so that the good
and bad directions become apparent.

Greetings all,

Jonathan

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