Greetings,
You see DMB, you can't give it a rest can you? Now I could reply by pointing out that you obfuscate,
miss the point, insult, provoke and are guilty of not being very bright, but where would that get
us? Just like the entire first half of your latest effort it would be a waste of time so I will not
bother.
Again, I have answered your question, namely, 'Why does free will not come up in the MOQ'? The
answer remains, 'because the MOQ sweeps it under the carpet.' You just did the same thing. Let me
put this one question to you as a demonstration of that process.
Do you or do you not accept that my thought that my football team won on Saturday is more 'correct,'
more 'accurate' and a better appraisal of the situation than my thought that they lost, given that
all match reports state that they won and 45 000 people will stand up and give eye-witness testimony
that this is the case - not to mention the couple of million who saw it on T.V?
I submit that if you answer the question affirmatively then my point is valid. Alternatively, if you
answer the question as a negative then I suggest that you contradict such basic tenets of human
experience that your position can only be described as weird and nonsensical. The only other option
you have is to say that the question is a bad one, but in doing so you again write off such a huge
area of human experience that I would think any metaphysics based upon your position cannot be
comprehensive, to say the least. This is a question which MUST transpose into any reasonable
metaphysics if that metaphysics is to have any bearing upon human experience in general and ethics
in particular.
It simply is not good enough to say that I have set the problem in SOM terms as if this somehow
answers it. I have set the problem in human terms and if the moq denies humanity then it is even
worse than I thought. Your reply is that, 'The "self" is no longer seen as a separate and autonomous
agent.' Please explain to me what that has to do with it. I have pointed that out on this forum
again and again and again, yet still you throw it at me as if it is some profound and novel view
which I may not have contemplated before. I agree with it and always have done, but it is simply
wrong to claim that this removes the question, or even has any bearing on it. It does not.
Once we have cleared this up, and assuming the connection isn't already obvious, I will explain why
this has a direct bearing on the mythical SOM.
Now you surprise me and answer the question back without the insulting pre-amble.
Struan
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Struan Hellier
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"All our best activities involve desires which are disciplined and
purified in the process."
(Iris Murdoch)
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