Re: MD truth

From: Peter Lennox (peter@lennox01.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Fri Feb 18 2000 - 23:46:54 GMT


Brilliant!
in itself, the apocryphal story clears nothing up, but the underlying
principle is clear: the best each of us can attain is a well-tuned
subjective viewpoint. Such a viewpoint (for an "intelligent individual")
contains a theoretical construct called "objective reality". When this is
well developed, it is in close agreement with others' "objective reality".
But the only way it could be Identical would be if we were able to
simultaneously occupy some other's space-and-time. given that (to the best
of my knowledge) we can't, then there are circumstances whereby there is
survival value attached to the notion that someone else's subjective
viewpoint may be equally as practically valid as my own. This is inherent in
a communicative species ( : pack animal). In a species that has evolved as
highly individual "sociopaths" (even "psychopaths") such as sharks, for
example, such a story would literally have no meaning. But then there would
be little or no language to express such ideas in, anyhow.
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Subject: Re: MD truth

> Matt,
> I think the concept of "multiple truths" is more applicable to: this
glass
> is half full AND half empty at the same time. A great story I once read
> pertaining to the theory of relativity goes something like this: there
are
> two brothers, Speedo and Goslo. Speedo gets in this crazy spaceship that
> approaches the speed of light and zooms to Proxima Centauri or someplace.
At
> the end of his trip, Earth and everybody on it has aged much "faster" than
he
> has. From Goslo's point of view, the spaceship zoomed away and Speedo was
in
> essentially slow motion the entire time. From Speedo's equally valid
point
> of view, the earth zoomed away from him and was in "fast forward" the
entire
> time. The kicker is, both perspectives are "absolute truth". Neither is
any
> more valid than the other one, yet they are in direct contradiction. In
> Pirsigese, each respective story holds higher respective value patterns
for
> each respective observer. I'm not sure this has cleared anything up, I
just
> really like telling that story to blow people's minds.
> -Jamie
>
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