Hey all,
First of all: I've had a bacterial thingy goingy nuts in my throat region
for the past two weeks or so. I've been delerious for the past week. Sorry
about the lack of posting.
Yes, this is a highly controversial topic. I’m sure to get lots of emails
about it.
I will politely suggest that you put aside at least a half an hour to read
this.
It is the crux of my theory.
It is the culmination of endless hours of classes on philosophy, social
theory, psychology, mathmatics, physics, chemistry, art...the list goes on
and on. (BTW, if you want my credentials, go jump in a lake. (Is that an
insult if you’re in the desert?) Read and take
what you like.)
I recommend you also print this out, if you like doing that sort of thing.
(It’s eight pages, single space.)
Thank you.
MJC
Let me begin:
WHY SCIENCE DISCREDITS ART;
or Why the NTs aren't listening to the NFs.
With this, I'm going back to the beginning. Eat your heart out, Phaedrus...
The Roots of Logic:
Various laws:
A.k.a: the Law of Inconsistancy, Law of Contradiction, Law of Circular
Arguments
The Scientific Method:
1) statement of the problem
2) hypothesis as to the cause of the problem
3) experiments designed to test each hypothesis
4) predicted results of the experiments
5) observed resutls of the experiments
6) conclusions from the result of the experiments
We've all seen this structure before. It's the same one we've been using for
the past 3000 years or so. It's the basis of Science and logical thought.
Western Thought is the footnotes of Plato.
We've been using this dead guy's stuff for so long, we think it's fixed. I'm
here to show that, like Newton's Laws, it is imprecise.
With this essay, I wish to show that:
A) Logically disregarding the process of Feeling (Q) invalidates Logic
B) Logic is based off of the process of Feeling (Q)
C) Intuition (NF) is a necessary part of Thought (N)
D) The structure of society and why this is important.
PART A:
Logically disregarding the process of Feeling (Q) invalidates Logic
Where does Logic come from? I’m not asking the age old questions of “Why do
we have thought?” and blah...
It comes from a few assumptions about how the world works:
Let me look at one of these “laws:” The Law of Inconsistancy.
It states: Something cannot be both one thing and another and two things
cannot share the same space at the same time.
We have observed that “things” can share the same space at the same time and
can be one thing and another. A.k.a: Quantum Physics.
By the way, if you ask any Science person or Philosophy person, they will
tell you two things: “Laws are based on Facts,” and “Feelings are
irrelevant.”
I wish to look at one thing:
Q: What is a Fact?
A: A Fact is something that can be Proven to be True.
Q: What does it mean to be “Proven True?”
or
Q: What is “True”?
A: Something that can be shown using the Scientific method.
Q: Where does the Scientific Method come from?
A: It’s based on Facts.
Ah ha!
Ever seen something called Circular Logic?
Example:
1) I believe in God.
2) The Bible tells me I should believe in God.
3) God wrote the Bible.
Law of Circular Logic:
CIRCULAR LOGIC IS INVALID.
Therefore:
LOGIC IS INVALID.
Or I could even go another way with this:
Q: Where does the Scientific Method come from?
A: It works the Best. (Feelings (Q))
Q: What is “Best?”
A: It has been “Proven True.”
Q: What is “Proven True.”
A: Something that can be shown using the Scientific method.
Conclusion:
Something is fishy in the roots of Logic.
PART B:
Logic is based off of the process of Feeling (Q).
Definition: Feelings are contradictory, inconsistant, concrete and solid,
all at the same time.
When I first started to look down this path, my first thought was, “Feelings
are wishy-washy. How can Thought be based off of that quicksand?”
Assumption: Only Humans feel.
Illogical (based on MOQ):
What about dogs?
They feel.
What about fish?
Okay, sure.
What about plants?
Uh, maybe.
What about bacteria?
Uh...
Viruses?
Uh...
DNA?
Uh...
Carbon.
Uh...
LILA: Humans Feel (Q) at a higher evolutionary state.
Assumption: Feelings are wishy-washy.
Illogical (based on MOQ):
Have you ever tried to argue this point?:
Wheat Thins are better than Sun Chips.
Yes. Easy.
What about this one?
Death is better than Life.
No.
How ‘bout this?
It sucks that Oxygen bonds to Hydrogen.
What the heck?
The farther back you go along, the more STATIC the QUALITY.
This is why the questions Feel inane the farther back you go.
BECAUSE THEY ARE SO OBVIOUS. (On an F Level.)
Definition: QUALITY (The process of Feeling)
is the Concrete (And UnConcrete) of the Universe.
So how STATIC is Logic (NT) right now?
LILA: WE ARE AT THIS STAGE IN EVOLUTION RIGHT NOW.
Hypothesis:
Logic (NT) is based on Assumptions. (Assumption is a four-dollar word for
Feelings (Q).)
Picture:
/\ space
|
C
| Time
--------A----B----->
|
\/
Definition: T is noticing the relationship between point A and B.
Definition: F is noticing the relationship between point A and C.
This can be applied to both an S level and an N level.
A.k.a:
ST and SF
NT and NF
Definition: Classical Reasoning (NT) is noticing a realtionship between
point A and B.
This is the essence of Cause and Effect. Time is a necessary component. It
is a horizontal
shift long the Time axis.
Definition: Romantic Reasoning is noticing a relationship between point A
and point C.
A.k.a: Intuition. “Feeling about people starving in China.” A vertical shift
along the Space axis. Time is not required*.
(*Except for that pesky Relativity stuff. But heck, that’s flawed anyway.)
Classical Reasoning has its anchor in A. (Assumptions. See Part A.)
How come nobody argues about ST and SF?
They do. Listen to a Feeler and a Thinker talk sometime. Totally different
languages.
How come nobody argues whether there SHOULD be ST and SF.
It’s already become a part of our SQ.
Plus, “should” is an NF word.
PART C:
Why Intuition (NF) is a necessary part of Thought (N).
Pick up a beginning Logic book and read the first page. It will tell you one
thing:
LOGIC IS A PROBLEM SOLVING TOOL.
It says nothing about how it gets the problems or which order we “should”
solve them.
THESE ARE BOTH NF TASKS.
The Scientific Method should be altered to read:
THE N METHOD
NF:
-2) feel bad
-1) prioritize what feels the worst
0) communicate this to NT
NT:
1) statement of the problem
2) hypothesis as to the cause of the problem
3) experiments designed to test each hypothesis
4) predicted results of the experiments
5) observed results of the experiments
6) conclusions from the result of the experiments
WHY?
NF----->NT
Intuition feeds information to Strategy.
BTW, each task (NF, NT, SJ, SP) has a realm of expertise(Keirsey,Please
Understand Me II).
These are:
NF: Intuition
NT: Strategy
SP: Tactics
SJ: Logistics
Picture:
NF------------->NT
/\ |
| |
| \/
SJ<-------------SP
This shows how things get into the world right now:
1) Intuition feels bad about something SQ and feeds that information to
Strategy people.
2) Strategy people define the problems they see and solve them. They hand
the answers over to the Tactics people.
3) The Tactics people apply this stuff to the real world. They figure out
what works in an S sense.
4) The Logistics people take what works and add it to the SQ. Until, the
Intuition people find something wrong with the SQ. Then the pattern repeats.
Of course, there was another way this worked, back before Life evolved
creatures who were capable of thinking. Picture:
SJ<-------SP
1) SPs found out what worked through blind luck (DQ).
2) SJs took what worked and added it to SQ.
Let me add on to the first picture:
J(SQ) J(SQ)
/\ /\
| |
| |
P(DQ)----------->NF----------->NT<--------P(DQ)
/\ |
| |
| \/
SJ<-----------SP<---------P(DQ)
|
|
\/
J(SQ)
This is how everything works based purely on what goes on in ONE person.
(We all have the capability to do all of these functions. It’s just
temperment. Kind of like handedness. I am right handed. I don’t mean I don’t
have a left hand. I just don’t use it as well as my right. I am an NT. I
don’t use the SJ function very well.)
I and E deal with how fast these changes take place. If somebody stays by
himself and never talks to anybody, none of their ideas are ever going to be
published. A.k.a: INT.
It takes an E, somebody who is good at social interaction, to spread ideas
and customs.
As you can see, ALL of these functions are necessary for the upkeep of the
society we now live in. Including intuition.
PART D:
The structure of society and why this is important.
The realm of the NT is Science. Logic. Classical reasoning.
The realm of the NF is Art. Writing. Poetry. Humanities. Romantic Reasoning.
A long time ago, NTs decided that NFs were irrelevant.
They decided, “We don’t need to prioritize problems. We will solve ALL
problems with our Very Big Hammers (Theories). Therefore, NFs are a waste of
time.”
They forgot one crucial detail: THE NUMBER OF PROBLEMS TO FIX IS INFINITE.
They started out with the small problems and they got a few big problems
solved along the way until they built up this huge tower of glass, made
solely out of theories.
That’s why NTs figure out how to make your car beep at prescribed times but
they’re not thinking about...oh...GLOBAL WARMING and OVERPOPULATION and
FAMINE and WAR.
All the while, Art (NF) is screaming, “I FEEL BAD! I FEEL BAD! SOMEBODY
LISTEN TO ME!”
But the NTs say, “Feelings are irrelevant.”
And the SPs say, “Cool, I don’t get it. Let’s use it.”
And the SJs say, “It sucks compared to the past, I don’t get it.”
And Art becomes a twisted mockery of what it once was. NFs hide from the
weight of feeling about everybody and take drugs and have nervous breakdowns
and suffer from mental illness.
And some NTs suffer from depression and metal illness and wonder why We are
currently doing all of this crap.
Matt asks:
Why are We doing this crap?
Matt answers:
Listen.
Fix what hurts.
Sincerely,
Matt Coughlan
INTP
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