>From SODV:
"Quality occurs at the point at which subject and object meet"
"Quality is not a thing. It is an event"
"Science rejects them [biological emotions and social prejudices] to set
free its own higher intellectual pattern. The Metaphysics of Quality calls
this a correct MORAL judgment by science. However science never rejects the
value of truth. It never rejects the value of experiment. It never rejects
the value of mathematical precision. Most important, it never rejects
Dynamic Quality. The greatest strength of the scientific method is that it
ALWAYS ALLOWS NEW EXPERIENCES, new ideas and a new evaluation of what it
learns. " [Then he continues with an explanation that MOQ provides a better
framework then science....]
If we take literally these points, every experience is a Quality Event. The
well known hot stove is an example of a (bad) quality event, where no
morality seemingly is present....
Morality is a chance of quality events: when a quality event enriches the
static qualities of any pattern, that's morality. It's moral to be always
ready for new quality events, and it's moral to improve our static
qualities.
If our our life is a journey, quality is what happens; morality is the right
direction.
Any thoughts?
Marco.
-----Messaggio Originale-----
Da: Horse <horse@wasted.demon.nl>
A: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Data invio: mercoledì 17 maggio 2000 1.49
Oggetto: MD Quality and Morality
> Hi Jon and MD
>
> On 14 May 2000, at 17:13, Ascmjk@aol.com wrote:
>
> > I was just wondering, is there a general agreement here that Quality and
> > Morality is the same thing? I'm not trying to make any point, I was just
> > curious if most of the people here agree with Pirsig on this. If memory
> > serves me correctly, a few people in the past had reservations about
Pirsig's
> > claim that Morality and Quality are in fact the same thing.
>
> I think it's taken as an axiom of the MoQ that Quality and Morality (and
Value) are identical.
> My view of this is that Quality/Morality is being referred to in a
particular way which defines
> an underlying reality not in the more narrow sense of a reference to a
particular act or type of
> act. This is where I think that the concept of Good appears and what I'm
not convinced about
> is that Good and Quality/Morality (in the sense that I've described above)
are the same thing.
> Obviously they are related and closely dependent but not, I believe,
identical.
>
>
> Horse
>
>
>
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