Greetings,
You have stepped back from your claim that, "underneath all their arguments is an unspoken
assumption from which, logically, they cannot escape," Platt, and are now content to dive back into
the obfuscation which constitutes the MoQ. You, earlier, claimed to be making a logical point which
was arrived at only by imposing your own re-definition upon your opponent and I am glad to see that
you are not prepared to back it up as a logical point from which 'they cannot escape.' In my
original posting on this matter I wrote, "It was clear to me from the outset that this relied upon a
re-invention of the word 'moral. . .'" Now you show me to be correct by telling me that Pirsig
re-defined morality. Fine, that was my point. I wasn't objecting to you (or Pirsig) re-inventing the
term morality, I was merely objecting to you thinking that this had any bearing upon those of us who
think the whole lot is nonsense. It doesn't and it was your second messianic posting in a row which
prompted me to post. (The first one claimed, quite bizarrely, that a dramatisation of a conversation
held in the 1940's could be construed as catching up to Pirsig when he wrote decades later)
As for the expansion of morality to include utility. This has been argued to death on this forum and
has never been resolved, except individually. I don't intend to rehash old ground, apart from to
note that its value is demonstrably subjective, as indeed is the value of the MoQ. I think it has
none, you think it has lots.
Struan
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Struan Hellier
< mailto:struan@clara.co.uk>
"If you say that everything is moral then that means morality is everything, which reduces to
everything is everything, which means nothing." (Struan - after Pirsig)
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