This is interesting. By what law do you say that there can be no
perfect circle?
A limitation is here that is being stated as if it could/should be
taken for granted. Nothing is for granted. If it can be conceived it
can be achieved.
This is the joy of language (of which math is one).
A lone individual conceives of an idea/l. Individual describes the
idea. People rally round the description. The description is realised.
regards,
Ian
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:31:27 +0100, you wrote:
>I think you've rather succinctly said some thing I was trying to get at :
>maths is more absolute and therefore less 'real', than 'reality'. Thus, for
>example, a circular thing is 'never' a perfect circle. Only a perfect circle
>manages this.
>cheers,
>ppl
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ghitus" <ghitus@libero.it>
>To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
>Sent: 10 October 2000 20:53
>Subject: Re: MD 1+1=2
>
>
>> Ed, Sasu, David, Peter, and all
>>
>>
>> > If S=0.999..., then we can say 10S=9.999..., and if we subtract the
>former
>> > from the latter we obtain 9S=9, which means S=1.
>>
>>
>> hmmm.... IMO if we subtract the former from the latter we get:
>>
>> 9.999... - 0.999... = 9.000...
>>
>> and I'm not sure we can say it's exactly like 9.
>>
>>
>> This aside, I would like to say I hope it's clear to all that arithmetic
>is
>> abstract... it's the most abstract science. All the mathematicians know it
>> very well. No serious scientist or philosopher will ever say that
>arithmetic
>> is a concrete reality.
>>
>> This is the point of view in a SOM. I think that in a MOQ we should say
>that
>> all abstractions are real, as intellectual static patterns of quality.
>Real,
>> just like the rocks, the cells and the nations. And all that is real, in
>the
>> precise moment we talk about it, is an intellectual static pattern of
>> quality. So it's not very amusing to attack the "truth" of arithmetic, as
>> the SOM's and MOQ's viewpoints are similar. It's better to attack the
>> "truths" of physics: platypi like the gravitation, the big bang, the light
>> speed and so on.
>>
>> ghitus
>>
>>
>>
>>
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