RE: MD Pirsig's letter - A response

From: Marty Jorgensen (mjorgensen@vpdinc.com)
Date: Mon Nov 06 2000 - 17:55:40 GMT


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[mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]On Behalf Of Dan Glover
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 11:22 AM
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Subject: Re: MD Pirsig's letter - A response

>Dan:

>I don't think that I perceive. I perceive and then I think about what it
>was. Often times I find the thinking that I do is actually an impediment
>to my perception of Universe. That is Phaedrus' point with his hot stove
>example and Robert Pirsig's point with his money analogy. We perceive
>value and therefore perception of value is not part of reality; it is
>reality.

This is my first post - let me know if I'm not doing this right.

I believe that perception is so closely connected to thinking that the two
may be impossible to separate. Our brain / thinking processes filter,
categorize and associate our perceptions so entirely that it may be
impossible to tell where one ends and the other begins. If this is true,
how does one know if a perception is "direct" or not? Sitting on a burning
stove is an extreme example that I am not sure tells us anything except that
we are highly conditioned to avoid pain. I don't feel that you "think about
your perceptions", I believe that your perceptions ARE your thinking / brain
processes.

Marty

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