MD To ALL Members of this Forum

From: Horse (horse@wasted.demon.nl)
Date: Sun Dec 31 2000 - 14:15:04 GMT


Struan

I'm sure you are aware of Rule 8 for this forum as it is on the website and was posted to
moq_discuss just a few weeks ago:

Rule 8:
Members should refrain from swearing, using offensive language and personal attacks on
other members. Abuse, in any form, will not be tolerated.

Considering the tone of the posts to which you were replying, what you have written is
inappropriate, unreasonable and offensive. The replies to PzEph and 3rdWaveDave, shown
below, are boorish, arrogant and unnecessary. You are a professional philosopher and a
teacher and you are quite capable of replying to any email on this forum in a calm, reasoned
and tolerant manner - you have done so in the past and I hope you will do so in the future.
The majority of members on this forum show respect for each other and as a professional
philosopher and a teacher perhaps you should set the standard for how discussions are
conducted. I really am deeply disappointed and saddened at the level to which some of your
recent offerings have descended. If you feel that there are those on this forum who are so
wrong then educate rather than abuse. Stupidity and ignorance (if this is what you feel is
being expressed) do not deserve rancour and bile but understanding and education as per
your profession.

To others members of this forum:
When replying to or initiating a discussion please do not adopt an aggressive and
confrontational stance - whoever your comments are aimed at. Excellence is not achieved
through aggression. Pirsigs work is about Quality not violence.

As we start a new year, a new century and a new millenium, let's start afresh and show AT
ALL TIMES the same respect for others that we would expect to receive ourselves. Whether
we accept each others beliefs or not we can at least be civilised and start talking rather than
fighting.

Horse

On 25 Dec 2000, at 2:33, Struan Hellier wrote:
> The last time anyone said that to me (apart from Rich "oh shit now I've read
> some philosophy I realise that it doesn't work after all" Pretti) was in
> primary school. What do you want me to do? Get my dick out and wave it at
> you?

On 31 Dec 2000, at 4:11, Struan Hellier wrote:

> If you must tweak my nose, Dave, you really need to get
> a bit closer than that, otherwise you end up falling flat on your face, as
> you have . . . . and, as an aside, it will please me greatly if the strawman
> argument is not seen as a problem here as this will continue to eliminate
> the moq from any academic discourse. The more utterly unrelated,
> ill-conceived refutations the better and asshole comments like the above (as
> Pirsig would say) make my point for me and make it very well.
>
> Yes, I am just having fun (nose tweaking as you might say) - but you make it
> so easy, Dave. Once again, when some pillock thinks he can take the piss
> without putting one intelligent observation down, I only give back as good
> as I get. Sorry if that causes offence, but this is a forum devoted to
> rhetoric rather than a search for truth, is it not??
>

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