Riffster,
I thank you for your complete agreement! Amazing! You said:
OK, I'll bite. Does Truth (i.e., Singular Reality) evaporate simply because
our precious systems of logic are impotent to decribe or contain it all in
one fell swoop without being frought with inConsistency, inCompleteness,
unCertainty, and an infuriatingly chronic lack of Closure? ("The Four Highly
Improbable C's" to any sober western researcher, I hope!) I can see it now:
"Grand Unity Theory fails, proves Reality is hoax!" Or, if our MAPS don't
work, REALITY must be at fault! Must we mistake theory for existence
itself?"
Of course not. The MAP is not the TERRITORY, i'ts JUST A MAP. (Is there an
echo in here?) Logic is not Truth, it's JUST logic, obediantly doing every-
thing we are smart enough to tell it to do, which USUALLY amounts to showing
us just exactly what we WANT to see. As a TOOL of HUMAN INVENTION, logic
has its many worthy uses, but the moment we forget its inherent limitations
we are led astray. So much for Logic, but what about Truth? I rather
suspect
she is unfuckable, and speaking of axioms, I'll leave you with one of Ayn
Rand's worthier bits: "Existence Exists."
I say:
Truth must be logically consistent.
No logical system is completely consistent.
Therefore, there is no truth.
Or
Truth exists.
No logical system used to convey truth is consistent.
Logical consistency is not required to convey truth.
Or?
The local professor of philosophy(MTSU) says:
Well, something of the flavor of Gödel's paradox gets through, but you've
vastly overstated the case: there are plenty of complete AND consistent
logical systems around (the standard apparatus for conducting what we
typically call 'propositional logic' or the 'sentential calculus'
(formalizing truth relations among whole, tenseless sentences) is a case in
point. The Gödel results are about logical systems stuffed with enough
axiomatic steroids to express the truths of arithemetic; it turns out that
any such system is consistent if and only if it is imcomplete (that is, if
and only if there are truths of the system that the system can express but
cannot prove); i.e., for artithmetic, there will necessarily always be more
truths than theorems.
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-dave
p.s. what part of california are you from?
David Prince
Systems Analyst
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