RE: MD Struan's Most Fascinating Post

From: Struan (struan@clara.co.uk)
Date: Sat Jan 27 2001 - 08:29:56 GMT


As you know full well Horse, 'Anon' is Elephant and there are plenty of
examples of his abuse in the archives.

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From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
[mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]On Behalf Of Horse
Sent: 27 January 2001 02:40
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Subject: RE: MD Struan's Most Fascinating Post

Hi All

Desperate words from a desperate person Struan. It looks like your bluff has
been called old
chap! Whether or not 'Anon' is correct in his interpretation is a matter for
debate, this forum is
a place for debate (although hardly of the mass type that you seem to hanker
after) so please
debate with the person that you assert is wrong. He may have abused
Aristotle's words and
ideas or he may not - and as I'm no scholar of Aristotle it's not for me to
say - but he has
certainly not been abusive towards you, except in that he has dared to
disagree with you and
provide a prima facie rational argument. If you are unable or unwilling to
engage in debate
over this matter then whinging and whining to me about it is pointless so
don't bother.
If I were half a man such as you I would probably stop the debate but being
a full man I see no
reason to stop intelligent debate in the correct arena.
Can you prove they are lies? Or is it just another opportunity for you to
engage in your own
abusive behaviour as a none too subtle means of avoiding the issue and
avoiding a debate
which there is every possibility that you will lose.
There is a pattern building up here with you Struan. Where you are unable or
unwilling to
debate with your equals and (possibly) betters you resort to verbal abuse
and irrelevance
hoping that it will distract others sufficiently that they fail to notice
your own inadequacy.
Unfortunately for you though, you've been rumbled!!!!!
At worst 'Anon' is guilty of misinterpretation (possibly, I don't know, see
above) but this hardly
constitutes abuse - except to the most warped and desperate mind.
So Struan, as a test of your encyclopaedic knowledge of philosophy and
mastery of debate
let's see if you can conduct a conversation without resorting to insult or
abuse or swearing
etc. If you can do so until a reasonable conclusion is reached I will donate
£10 to the charity
of your choice. Ya can't say fairer than that me old mucker but I think my
money is perfectly
safe.

Horse

On 27 Jan 2001, at 1:28, Struan wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> You see, Elephant's latest post is just the sort of deliberately insidious
> abuse that Horse, if he were half a man, should stop. I did not claim that
> the term reason was from the Latin. I did not say that Aristotle was OK
and
> I did not say that, 'Aristotle has an intuitionist theory of correctness
in
> argument'. I didn't even mention Plato.
>
> These are deliberate lies and, as any reasonable person will see, have no
> place in rational debate. This is abuse of the very essence of humanity
and
> those who perpetrate it deserve nothing but being told at every turn that
> they are total twats.
>
> Incidentally, this is the kind of deceitful and utterly unforgivable abuse
> which Horse condones and promotes. A disgrace to any reasonable forum and
> another confirmation (as if one were needed) of his hypocrisy.
>
> Struan
>
>
>
>
>
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