Elephant,
You wrote:
....there really is no arguing with people who think
that self-contradictions can be true.
A wondeful post but you missed the mark.... Nobody is arguing that
self-contradictions can be true (a strawman if I've ever read one). The
question is whether a rule that excepts itself is a self-contradiction at
all. Your whole post begs the question by assuming the premise that rules
must include themselves. As there is no point in arguing with people who
assume their conclusion as a premise in the argument that supports their
conclusion, I think that will be all for me on this matter.
Rick
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