Re: MD Glenn, Platt, Ant and the creation of patterns

From: Richard Budd (rmb007Q1@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Mar 09 2001 - 19:53:12 GMT


 Elephant,
I concede your point... If one is willing to overlook and excuse all the
flaws in Pirsig's argument, then it has no flaws. Good job.

ELEPHANT:
> Rick, you should not assume that simply because I think your point is
> mistaken I must therefore have misunderstood it.

RICK:
Elephant, either you misunderstand or (more likely) you simply refuse to
acknowledge. You seem to be a Pirsig fanatic who cannot admit that his
master botched an argument (or even worse, deliberately slipped one by you).
You are too willing to bend the text and read things into it that simply
aren't there. It's actually sort of funny, you put words into my mouth (ex.
you're claim that I believe in an 'empirical gravity') and you put words
into Pirsig's mouth (ex. you're claim that his argument implicitly denies
the 'law of gravity/gravity itself' dichotomy), while neither of us ever
actually wrote the thoughts you attribute to us. You attack arguments I
never made all the while defending a position that's not in Pirsig's text.

As there is no good in arguing with fanatics I think we ought to call it
quits at this point.

rick
PS
Much like yourself I deeply love Pirsig's books and theories. The
difference between us is that I'm willing to see the problems while you
insist on keeping your eyes closed. Pirsig is JUST A MAN and like all other
men... he gets some stuff wrong.
Thanks for the duel.

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