Re: MD Gravity and empiricism

From: Jonathan B. Marder (jonathan.marder@newmail.net)
Date: Thu Mar 15 2001 - 15:14:05 GMT


Hi David Lind and all,

JONATHAN:
>>I feel an UPWARD force on my buttocks. I feel nothing pressing on my
>>shoulders.

DAVID LIND
> Try this out - the upward force you feel is the yin to the yang of
> the
> downward pressure that your body feels. The fact that you sense it
> only as upward pressure (IMHO) is less because that's the only
> pressure and more to do with an inability to sense the other. Many
> of
> the actors I work with initially have no "sense" of their bodies.
> (warning - generalization about to occur) Americans tend to be
> "floating heads" - all their focus on their thoughts, little or none
> on their bodies. Much of my work involves getting actors to get
> connected to the idea that they DO have a body and to be aware of the
> sensations felt by this body.

Are you implying that one has to LEARN to feel the force gravity?
Would a small child be able to feel the downward force?

JONATHAN
>> Let me ask David and Glenn a question:
>> Supposing the ground you are standing on suddenly gives way, and you
>> fall a long way (like Alice). Now that you are falling, and there is
>> no longer any force on your feet (or buttocks), has gravity ceased to
>> exist?
>

DAVID
> Hmmmm....seems like a trick question. In the above, are we to
> discount the sensation of falling? The feeling our body moving? The
>
> sensation of falling is just as indicative of the "force" as the
> pressure on the buttocks/feet/etc.
>
> Now if you had said we were in the space shuttle and there was no
> longer any force on our feet... :o)

Since you brought up the space shuttle, let me revise the scenario:
You have been put under anaesthetic and awake to find yourself floating
"weightless" in a box.
You have to guess which of the following is true-
    1. You are in orbit around the earth
    2. You have broken orbit and are headed out into deep space.
    3. You are in a lift/elevator and the cable has snapped.

David, you say that we should be able to differentiate (by awareness of the
"sensation of falling" you mentioned above). I'm willing to take bets that you
can't tell the difference between any of the possibilities ;-)

Jonathan

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