RE: MD An Introduction to the Metaphysics of Quality

From: Stephen Devlin (Stephen.Devlin@europe.simoco.com)
Date: Wed May 16 2001 - 08:46:16 BST


i have been told that ZAMM was a set text on the UK's Open University
syllabus (at least for a friend who was taking electronics&technical
modules) for years.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Budd [mailto:rmb007Q1@hotmail.com]
Sent: 16 May 2001 02:40
To: moq_discuss@moq.org
Subject: Re: MD An Introduction to the Metaphysics of Quality

Hey all---
Let's not forget Dan Glover's LILA'S CHILD --- it's a great supplement to
the Pirsig books and maybe even a step in the direction of a "MoQ textbook",
if such a thing is possible.
http://members.tripod.com/~Glove_r/Childintro.htm

rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Platt Holden" <pholden@cbvnol.net>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: MD An Introduction to the Metaphysics of Quality

> Hi Doug:
>
> A warm welcome to the discussion. From your background it sounds
> like you have much to offer the group. For starters, I agree that the best
> textbooks for the MOQ are ZAMM and Lila, and that a value-centered
> universe is a tough sell in in a world where morality is considered
> limited to the human social level by both philosophers and public alike.
> There's also the paradox to be overcome of the need to use SOM
> assumptions and language to explain the MOQ. Finally there's the
> issue of how it's possible to have the experience of enlightenment by a
> deliberate suspension of value when according to the MOQ experience
> itself is value. None of these questions has been answered to
> everyone's satisfaction yet on this site, and there are many other
> issues still to be resolved. We need all the help we can get and look
> forward to your contributions.
>
> Platt
>
> >
> > Well, I suppose the quick and unsatisfying answer is that
> > any given subject has to be "set and dried and received"
> > before colleges start teaching it.
> >
> > E.G., freshman don't learn what the greatest thinker on
> > Earth discovered in his office just last week....
> >
> > Sometimes not even the greatest thinker's results of
> > 30 years ago are not set and dried enough!
> >
> > MOQ is still quite a fringe field, I would bet, so therefore
> > only books like Lila itself and ZAMM might appear in the near
> > future.... No textbooks...
> >
> > Having said that, I think the current **world intellectual
> > climate** is 180 degrees apart from moq, and with THAT, it
> > may be that acceptance as a legitimate field is just not
> > conceivable at this point in time, at all.
> >
> > A kind of intellectual revolution would have to occur, first...
> >
> > Douglas L. Hemmick, Ph.D.
> >
>
>
>
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