3WD,
I am appalled at the attitude towards Diana on an issue where her rights are
unquestionable.
Appalled and uncomprehending. I cannot understand the need for this kind of
factionalism or discussion on an issue of this clarity. Authors have
rights. Period.
And Marco,
You are using the illusory nature of the self as an argument for the
trampling of one self by another. Think harder.
And there is nothing anti-MOQ in pointing out some low-quality elements in
Dan's (otherwise well-intentioned) deciscion making.
It is high quality to ask before you borrow things. And it is not the
*ideas* that are being borrowed here (I agree - these cannot be owned) but
*reputations* (which is precisely the most important thing it can fall to a
person to own, because it effectively *is* the person). Diana does not wish
to be associated with Dan's project, and any wilfull disregard for that wish
is a violation of her person as sure as if you drugged her and planted her
on to a Republican platform to be photographed besides George Bush.
We all agree - besides the Truth the Person is a very low level of
quality-evolution indeed. But that's not a license to attack others in the
name of a moral perfection that you fail to uphold yourself:
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
There is justice and injustice even (perhaps only) in one's dealings with
selves, persons, reputations and other phantasms of this important kind.
Please try not to forget that, because if you do, your nemesis will come
when *your* characters are treated as you so high-mindedly treat Diana's:
Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.
Walk in their shoes.
Elephant
P.S. I remind everyone that the archives remain open. From what some have
been saying you would gain the impression that they had recently been closed
and that public access to the ideas discussed and presented in LC now relied
entirely upon the publication of that work in it's entirety and as it's
editor sees fit. This is not the case.
> From: 3dwavedave <dlt44@ipa.net>
> Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:52:18 -0500
> To: moq_discuss@moq.org, Dan Glover <daneglover@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: MD Authors Rights
>
> Dan, Diana, All
>
> Diana from here MOQ Book post:
>
>> Any other suggestions?
>
> Yes
>
> I will parallel this post with a private one, Dan, but if you are not
> detached by now, sorry to see you go, particularly in this manner. But
> it might be all for the better. We shall see.
>
> After the smarting abides a bit ponder this:
>
> You have a quality seed in just the title "Lila's Child" and it is
> yours. Now all you have to do is figure out how to make it grow and if
> you want it to. If you do, here is a not so 'novel' but practical
> approach which I will dedicate to Marco, who's post triggered these
> thoughts.
>
> First, you have the archive of all the messages that were sent to you as
> part of a continous and ongoing conversation of with you. They're on
> your hard drive, they're yours. They are also your cast of characters.
> Choose them wisely and direct them well.
>
> Second, You admit you're not a writer, fine, you have the seed, find a
> 'professional' writer to partner with. Jointly write the NOVEL 'Lila's
> Child' based on these internet/discussion group/philosophic/quality
> experiences. Is it a "copycat" approach? Absolutely, but if the quality
> is there it won't matter, in fact it may even be a plus.
>
> Third, You have two quality patterns on how to weave fact and fiction
> into a compelling blend of both.
>
> Fourth, you may even have the ear of the original pattern maker, use it
> sparingly and wisely.
>
> Imagine the cover : a sun bleached, sea eroded carcass of a cheap
> plastic doll half buried in the sand, one scraggled tuff of blond
> polyester gleaming in the hazy sunset.
>
> maybe a forward parroting,
>
> "What follows is based on actual occurrences. Although much has been
> changed for rhetorical purposes, it must be regarded in its essence as
> fact. However, it should in no way be associated with that great body of
> factual information relating to orthodox Zen Buddhist practice. It’s not
> factual on motorcycles, either." (Zen and the Art of Motorcycle
> Maintenance, Robert Pirsig 1928-, William Morrow and Company-1974)
>
> The dedication, a given.
>
> Which 'professional' writer? You got it!
>
> Pragmatically, peacefully, and most importantly privately call her
> bluff. Then both of you shut up, quietly disappear into computerland,
> and do it. She claims to be a writer of some talent, she has a
> "Thorough knowledge of ZMM and LILA" in addition to the LS and MoQ
> sites, and quite probably has entertained similar thoughts more than
> once. Now will it be full of lots of "big sloppy wet kisses" as Roger?
> (can't remember) is want to proffer? No, but it could be Dynamic
> experience for both. And maybe, just maybe, for all.
>
> Standing on line at Amazon.
>
> 3WD
>
>
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