Platt,
About the few disagreement:
> Government monopolies are far worse than private ones because they
> are able to enforce their monopoly at gunpoint.
But, in a democratic context, at least the citizens can change the "owners" of a
public monopoly.
> Government monopolies rarely allow the taxes collected to support
> them from being used by competitiors, thus eliminating serious
> competition. (Public schools, universal health systems being
> examples.)
Of course. On the other hand, private monopolies are able to do everything to
deny the introduction of competition. For example, they use to buy the
governments. What I really reject, is that the economic competition is the
only "serious" one. Capitalism *measure* an economic result, therefore arrange a
*ranking*, and decide that a given organization is *better*. Very objective.
> There is nothing inherently excellent in nonprofit organizations such
> as Greenpeace or Amnesty International.
Of course. On the other hand, there's nothing inherently excellent in
capitalistic organizations like Nike or Microsoft. My point was that liberals
are more inclined to support nonprofit organizations. Sadly, market, red and
black dictatorships, even "democratic" governments, are often inclined to
*forget* human rights, so we need Amnesty International. I'm longing for the
day when they will close Amn. Int. as human rights will be safe everywhere.
> Nor are artists on the left-
> wing automatically superior to ones on the right.
Of course again. I'm not used to ask artists for their *exit poll*. I was just
pointing out that *statistically* artists tend to be more on the left wing.
I have noticed you have not really answered about socialism, that was the
*subject* in the end. Is it too much to guess that you (and Rog) agree that RMP
did not condemn definitively every possible form of socialism? That, simply, he
has pointed out that the mistake of Soviet socialism was that the "metaphysical
structure of their objectivity never told them Dynamic Quality exists"? And that
a socialism WITH an included concept of DQ could be a good option?
You appreciate the fact that I'm not a socialist. Really, I'm not, but also I
think there's a lot of good in it. On the other hand, I'm probably a
libertarian, but I see to many *inherent* mistakes and problems in our western
system. This discussion has confirmed my precedent impression that the
controversy Capitalism vs. Socialism is out of date: as Rog points out, noone
here supports a pure capitalism, or a pure communism.
In the meanwhile, now that the Soviet Giant is dead, I tend to see less dangers
coming from the left wing than coming from the right wing.
thanks,
Marco
p.s.
About the "claim care" topic, I'm going to begin another thread. Hope to see you
there.
p.p.s.
Dear Elephant, I think it's the first time this year I agree with you!
"Semel in anno licet insanire": I will open a bottle of red wine, this evening.
Especially:
" I'd like to be told just exactly when it was that the UK government had to put
tanks on the streets to enforce free health care for all. "
On the other hand, I fear the new Italian government will have to put tanks on
the street, if they will ever try to arrange a private USA-like health system.
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