.my earlier post might (big might) make more/some sense if i quote the
uberdood himself
.....When A.N.Whitehead wrote that 'nankind is driven forward by dim
apprehensions of things too obscure for its existing language' he was
writing about Dynamic Quality. Dynamic Quality is the pre-intellectual
cutting edge of reality, the source of all things, completely simple and
always new. it was the moral force that had motivated the brujo in Zuni. It
contains no pattern of fixed rewards and punishments. Its only perceived
good is freedom and its only perceived evil is static quality itself - any
pattern of one-sided fixed values that tries to contain and kill the ongoing
free force of life.(Lila,page 140 Black Swan paperback)
the quality, the good isn't in the void, it is the dialogue between a
person and the experienced, one's perceptions of the experience may lead to
that sensed as having dynamic quality or indeed some other attribute, please
help me out here and tell me how we can permanently experience dynamic
quality. Incidentally, doesn't the second law of thermodynamics strongly
suggest that static patterns are not all migrating to an ultimate good? I'm
no stephen hawkings but if the 2nd law is true then isn't that therefore
the state to which all static patterns are migrating, so a dead universe is
the ultimate good? i think DQ is quite the reverse and a step against the
physical system we have understood so far, i think, ish,kind of, hmm.
-----Original Message-----
From: Wim Nusselder [mailto:wim.nusselder@antenna.nl]
Sent: 25 June 2001 10:20
To: moq_discuss@moq.org
Subject: Re: MD Religion/God ~ MoQ/DQ
Dear Stephen,
You wrote 20/6 13:26 +0100 in the "Back on topic"-thread:
"In relation to Wim's post I would put it as dynamic quality is a void that
can be re-experienced time and again. As human beings we change at different
rates and absorb new static patterns at different rates and different static
patterns we have 'taken on' (to the previous time) make us think we are
seeing something new where infact the dynamic q is the same indefinable its
allways been."
I think you referred to my 20/6 11:29 +0200 post in the "Religion/God ~
MoQ/DQ"-thread, so I answer in that thread.
I hesitate to describe DQ as a void. A void, the absence of or freedom from
all static patterns of value, may be a prerequisite to (very temporarily)
experience DQ but I don't see the Quality, the Good, in a void in itself.
Can a void be the ultimate Good (that ever eludes us) towards all static
patterns are migrating? It could just as well be the ultimate Evil which
they are migrating from. It needs more than a void to explain the change for
the better DQ creates. Just breaking up, denying, freeing your'self' from
static patterns of value does not account for (re)creation of better static
patterns of value.
With friendly greetings,
Wim Nusselder
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