RE: MD Real Libertarians Please Stand Up

From: Gerhard Ersdal (ingeborg.ersdal@chello.no)
Date: Sat Jun 30 2001 - 18:41:52 BST


Platt,

You wrote to Marco:
>But, I digress. As a humanitarian, what have you done (voluntarily) to
>alleviate the suffering of the Nigerians? Or even the Serbs next door?

I guess you solved the problem of having to deal with humanitarians in a neat way. If anybody have the time to argue with you on the subject of humanitarianism, they are hypocritical and hollow, as they are not out in the field doing humanitarian work. If they were doing something that really count in your mind, they would be unable to argue with you as they will be somewhere in Africa etc.

In my mind Marco and Andrea is doing a valuable humanitarian work just provoking the humanitarian idea in this discussion group, Bob Dylan is doing a valuable humanitarian work by his lyrics, the General Director of the Nobel Peace Price Comity is doing a valuable humanitarian work by contributing to a focus on humanitarian work once a year (I hope Marco and Andrea is pleased with the comparison). According to your criteria, I guess all these persons will be hypocritical and hollow.

I think there must be something in between fanaticism and hollow hypocrites. Some have to stay home, work, earn money, and finance the humanitarian work. According to Libertarian thinking, this is the way these groups should be financed.

A good thing about REAL Libertarianism is that anybody should be free to move from country to country, probably leading to a lot of third world people going to US. When the US don't let people come there, it is a signal that US are not a REAL Libertarian society, but libertarian when that fits the interest best and protective when that fits the US interest best.

Finally, The purpose of this discussion is IMO to look at different on different aspects of how MoQ apply to social systems. If MoQ proves (if that should be possible) that a terrible political system is the system with most quality, I will just back off from such a theory. A theory is only valuable as long as it is giving valuable results. I think MoQ is a valuable theory, but during this discussion I've started to have doubts, but I do not think that all these Libertarian ideas are based on MoQ, but often just on personal preferences. This is obviously also valid for my preferences of an other political system than Libertarianism. If we use economical theory to prove what political system that has quality, Libertarianism would probably come out as number one. If you use humanitarian principles or other theories, others might come out as number one. What I have hopes for is that we could throw off all these preferences, and use pure (as good as possible) MoQ and see what comes out of such an analysis.

Friendly Greetings
Gerhard (doing some wishful thinking on a Saturday evening)

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