RE: MD Real Libertarians Please Stand Up

From: N. Glen Dickey (aretelaugh@pacbell.net)
Date: Wed Jul 04 2001 - 00:04:58 BST


Rasheed,

> I guess you would need more specifics to properly analyze my example.
Let's
> say that this guy pulls a gun on you in a dark alley and says, 'give me
your
> wallet or i'll kill you.' Let's say you have a gun he doesnt see, and you
> can either give him the wallet and be on your way, or kill him and keep
your
> wallet. Would it be 'good' to kill that person?

Sure I would shoot him. It would not be good to kill that person but it
would be good to successfully defend my person. He might decide to shoot me
anyway and is certainly threating to.

> I think that in order to purchase a firearm one should have to offer proof
that
> he needs it and proof that he is competent enough to use it properly and
keep it
> away from children and such.

Needs a firearm for what? While the MoQ may not say much about Gun Control
the US founding fathers did. Do you realize that the founding fathers
expressly stated the citizenry should be allowed to own the same kind of
firearms the the Army was equiped with? Their reasoning was that if the
Army ever tried to over throw the State or if the State became a tryanny
that ordinary citizens would out number the government forces by twenty to
one. They said this explicitly. I'm sure you've heard all kinds of stories
about the horrors of gun owership and you will never hear anything but from
the main stream media. It's not that other stories aren't out there but
that they don't report. Don't take my word for it, do your own research.
Independent researchers have shown that stories of people defending
themselves with firearms are not reported and stories (like your firends) of
the dangers of firearms are.

You know how many gun laws there are in Vermont? Zero. None. Empty set.
If your reasoning is correct why don't we hear horror stories about people
dying all the time in Vermont? Because people kill people not guns. I
think the same is true in Alaska. Yet hear in the SF Bay Area of California
there are parts of Oakland that I won't stop in while driving and we have
gun control up the wazoo! The crimninals still have guns and will continue
to have them because of supply and demand. Yet I as a representitive of the
law abiding (well for the most part anyway ) community am seen as a threat
to the State because I like to go shoot my AR-15 at the range once in a
while? Yeah sure.

Up until the fifties it was legal to buy 20mm Anti-Tank rifles (Solothurn)
and people did! How come we didn't have all kinds of wacko crimes then?
This is a weapon that could shoot through light armored vehicles! Maybe
guns and wackos killing people are only distantly related.

At any rate you seem confused over the difference between a right and a
priveledge. Ask the government permission for owning a firearm?
Governments are instituted by men (and women) and derive their powers from
the consent of the governed not the other way round.

I fear the government that fears my gun.

Glen

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