Re: MD Consciousness Explained

From: SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com
Date: Tue Jul 24 2001 - 02:55:34 BST


Thanks Willem.
Much appreciation for your contribution.

I obtained my own copy of this book recently from Oxbow press in the US who
still print it.

Cheers!
Squonk. :-)

In a message dated 7/23/01 8:48:33 PM GMT Daylight Time, willem.md@wxs.nl
writes:

<< Hi All,
 
 Squonks' "Bite the bullet friends; Consciousness is High quality, very
 dynamic, and not
>centred in individual Humans."
 is supported by the following quote from F.S.C. Northrop (the author of the
 philosopy book that Phaedrus read in ZMM ch. 11 p. 108):
 
 [Northrops aestetic/theoretic split becomes Pirsigs' dynamic/static split]
 
 "The psychological, epistemological, religious and cultural consequences of
 this, when its full implications are grasped, will be tremendous. A
 veritable revolution will have occurred in Western thought. Instead of
 defining the aesthetically immediate away as a mere phenomenal projection
 resulting from the interaction of mind and body, body and mind and the
 medium joining them will be defined, each in turn and all together, in terms
 of the relation between the aesthetically immediate denoted by concepts by
 intuition and the theoretically ontological designated by concepts by
 postulation. In short, instead of defining aesthetics and logic, including
 mathematics, in terms of a relation between psychology and physics,
 psychology and physics will be derived from a more primary aesthetics and
 logic. Put more concisely, this means that instead of regarding
 consciousness as a faculty or property of a knower by means of which he
 takes hold of and is aware of purely subjective projected aesthetic
 materials such as colors and sounds, a knower will be thought of as
 conscious because he is composed of irreducible, ineffable, aesthetic
 materials. It is the primacy of the aesthetic and the ineffability of
 anything known with immediacy which is the source of the so-called
 consciousness of the individual and not the consciousness of the individual
 which is the source of the aesthetic materials. Thus aesthetics and logic,
 including a mathematics defined in terms of logic, become the primary
 subjects, the one as irreducible, fundamental and important as the other,
 and psychology, physics and even religion will be derived from them—a
 complete reversal of the basic assumptions of modern Western thought."
 
 Cited from: The Logic of The Sciences and The Humanities, The Macmillann
 Compamy - New York 1947 p. 395/96
 
 Willem Beekhuizen
>>

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