Re: MD Dead Poets Society

From: Victoria Panevin (vpanevin@iprimus.com.au)
Date: Tue Aug 07 2001 - 09:41:21 BST


Hi Jonathan, Platt and All!

Thankyou for the warm welcome guys :-)

I would just like to reply to Jonathan that although I have not seen the
movie you speak of , I can see your point of view, however....
I disagree with:
>"IMO, the lesson of this older
> movie is more complete than the lesson of the "Dead Poets Society".

DPS is not intended as a radical call against traditional values, and for an
idealistic future.
It does not scoff at the value of the type of education the boys are
getting - after all the caliber of the boys shown is proof enough of it's
merits - only of it's limitations.

The teacher does not encourage the boys to drop their education and become
anti-establishment - he is there to represent DQ, and demonstrate what
happens when DQ is allowed to be built upon SQ.
There are examples of this throughout the movie, but the strongest example
is the teacher himself.
He managed to successfully build upon both the social and intellectual SQ
levels proffered by the school, without succumbing to the staleness of the
institution. For not only was he a good student and obviously worked within
the established system, he was also the founder of "The Dead Poets
Society" - a lovely DQ development!

His returning to teach there would have to be the final proof.
In effect, DQ wasn't "denying" the importance of SQ, it was the Parent's and
faculties' denial of the natural and utmost necessary process of DQ, that
ultimately ended in tragedy.

Victoria

----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan B. Marder <jonathan.marder@newmail.net>imself
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: MD Dead Poets Society

> Hi Victoria and Platt,
>
> Thanks for the good posts about the movie "Dead Poets Society". I agree
with
> your protrayal of the Robin Williams character as a teacher of the dynamic
and
> romantic side of quality.
>
> However, I am struck by a dark side to this that appears in earlier movie
on
> the same theme - "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie", in which Jean Brodie
(played
> by a young Maggie Smith) is trying to teach her girls to live life and
> appreciate quality. The movie is set in England of the 1930s.
>
> The dark aspect is this - one of the things Miss Brodie is romanticizing
about
> is a "new" dynamic political movement that has arisen in Italy, let by a
> certain Bennito Mussolini. As the movie develops, she encourages one of
the
> girls volunteer as a nurse in the Spanish Civil War. The girl has learnt
the
> lesson about the dynamic/romantic well, but unfortunately didn't learn the
> "static/classical" aspects of the situation (the "facts"). She is killed
> serving not Franco, but the Republican forces. IMO, the lesson of this
older
> movie is more complete than the lesson of the "Dead Poets Society".
>
>
> Jonathan
>
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