Hello everyone
>From: "Marco" <marble@inwind.it>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
>Subject: Re: MD Self, Free/Determinism : a short essay (again... ;)
>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:49:28 +0200
>
>Hi Dan,
>
>
>It seems we have a problem.
>
>M:
> > My thought was:
> > Quality, according to the MOQ, has a double nature: D and S, isn't it?
>
>Dan:
> > I think no.
>
>My understanding of the MOQ (or QM as Bo prefers :-) ) has always been that
>Quality, Reality, Nature, Value, Universe are all names to point to
>*all-there-is*. And that the dynamic / static split is useful in order to
>understand our universe. That's what I mean when I say that Quality has a
>double nature... (I don't want to enter here the never ending discussion
>whether
>this split is merely intellectual or it is also ... real).
>
>Anyway, if you deny this point, it's like to be on two completely different
>metaphysics.... a bit worrying.
Hi Marco
Thank you for your reply. If Quality has a double nature and experience is
Quality, then as you say, it seems that experience also has a double nature.
I don't think that is quite right. A Dynamic "experience" only becomes an
experience upon reflection. I think in one of his letters to Anthony McWatt
(in the archives), Robert Pirsig says the first "cut" of Quality is change.
Then come concepts of before and after. It is here that the concepts you
name exist...they are "all there is," static quality. Dynamic Quality must
be kept concept-free. When you say Quality has a double nature, it seems as
if you've turned it into some kind of object that has Dynamic and static
properties. I know that is not what you mean to do though. Is it?
>
>
>Marco
>
>p.s.
>About Aristotle, I was not comparing at all Pirsig and the Big Old
>Greek....
>The matter/form split is completely different from the Dynamic/Static
>split... I
>just used a Greek term, that classically has always been used to mean
>Wholeness,
>Union, Amalgamation, Entireness.
>
>Just as example, this ancient word in still in use in the modern Greece to
>mean
>the "total amount" in the bottom of an invoice. I don't think that all the
>Greek
>grocers are Aristotelian for that.... :-)
Thank you for the clarification.
Dan
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