Dear Platt,
Regarding your repeated statement that crime and terrorism are
patterns of value on the biological level:
If you leave Pirsig's quotes and his metaphors of "battle between
society and biology" and "doctors killing germs" aside for a
while, do you experience value in what Marco wrote 25/7 1:31
+0200:
"Assigning things to levels is not easy. Probably it's not even
very correct."
Could it be that our experiences (including the experiences we
label as "crime" and "terrorism") can be seen to be part of
different patterns of value on different levels simultaneously?
You didn't reply to Rog's description in the "Karamazov"-thread
of the quality in the terrorist attack on the WTC of 29/9
11:50 -0400. To me it demonstrated that this terrorism can even
be seen as an element in a (low quality) intellectual pattern of
values.
The "martyr"-status suicidal terrorists strive for makes it (to
me) clearly a part of a social pattern of values.
And yes, rule-by-terror, trying to scare the USA army out of the
Islamic heartland by attacking USA civilians at home, is also
part of a biological pattern of values.
To take a less controversial example: the throne that seems to
have been discussed before in this mailing list is to me both an
element in an inorganical pattern of values (a stable
configuration of quantum effects presenting itself to us as
"matter"), in an biological pattern of values (it saves kings
the -biologically low quality- discomfort of sitting on the
ground) and in a social pattern of values (it enhances the status
of kings).
With friendly greetings,
Wim Nusselder
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