Squonk,
Obviously, another digital slap is needed... but I'm afraid it would be as
ineffective as the previous one.
I'll try to explain things to you, then.
>Quality is not, 'to which we all make our varied ways, or if,
> rather, each of us finds a different quality that is in part shaped by our
> varied experiences,'
>
>Quality is prior to all this. Our experience IS generated by Quality.
We know, and if you had taken the time to learn about Wilber's views, you
would understand that this is perfectly understood by both John and
"Wilberites" at large (among which I do not count myself... yet). They call
it "non-dual awareness" instead of Quality, but it is essentially the same
thing. Wilber argues that the best way to experience it is to proceed by
stages, but he does recognize that some mystic schools prefer the direct
approach, and that it *is* one possible path to it.
>
>To argue that Quality is ANYTHING; layered or whatever is missing the whole
>thing.
Even that it can be divided between DQ and SQ ? Even that SQ is composed of
four levels ? ;)
You sound like the hard-core mystics Pirsig argued against, but you do not
look like you have the credentials. Or have you ?
>
>Will someone out there deal with this blithering idiot we know and assume
to
>be John Beasley or what?
As long as you continue to yell in such inquisitorial fashion, I perfectly
understand why John continues to happily ignore you. If intellectual openess
isn't your thing, you could at least abide by civility, no ?
In any case, I hope you'll try to rectify your attitude before falling into
my kill-file, which shouldn't be too far in the future.
Be good (or at least, try)
Denis
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