I agree with all your cautions about communication and language. There we
can only struggle with patience, generosity and curiosity to understand each
other. Assuming this, we are also left with the problem of those who argue
more the sake of 'winning' than learning. Learning is a gift we give and
receive from each other. With an open mind and a generous heart, we can
learn from anyone, anytime, anywhere.
Lawrence
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
> [mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]On Behalf Of Dave Moller
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 11:51 AM
> To: moq_discuss@moq.org
> Subject: Re: MD Moral development
>
>
> --- Chris Vlaar <elkeaapheefteen@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > it's hard to understand other people, this has been
> > one of the major
> > problems in my childhood(I'm saying this at age 22,
> > still a child). Why is
> > it that people don't seem to understand me and why
> > can't I understand other
> > people? Like (early)Wittgenstein and others like
> > Bohr I thought we were
> > captured in our language, a lingiustical cocoon. But
> > it's not really the
> > language that is the problem, it's the different
> > perspectives we all have,
> > we can't synchronize our ideas,
>
> People often jump out and try to pin the blame of
> understanding on language. But I agree the real issue
> is the difference in individual experience. The main
> issue with language is not that it's impresice
> (spelling?) or can't describe things, I think the main
> issue is that a common language can give a false
> impression of understanding. For instance, if I
> write a 10,000 word essay describing what "love" means
> to me I can hopefully give you some sense of what me
> feelings are. However if I say to you the simple
> sentence "I am in love" You'll nod and smile and
> congratulate me and I'll falsely assume that you have
> understood the feelings I'm feeling. This is the main
> problem, language lets me simplify descriptions down
> to approximate phrases that we have as a culture
> agreed meanings for but we need to be careful to not
> rely too heavily on the agreed meanings being
> consistent.
>
> Alternately we could all sit down and thoroughly
> memorise the oxford english dictionary and then we'd
> have quite a few less communication issues...
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave
>
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