Re: MD I seem to be a verb

From: Richard Weale (r.weale@epc-tubs.com)
Date: Fri Nov 30 2001 - 19:10:14 GMT


"For lack of a better word" it is called the Way. There is debate that "in
the beginning was the Word". The former conveys the world coming in while
the latter looks out. Perhaps I have missed Mr. Pirsig's point, but I
believe the point at which these two cross is a path that becomes
overwhelming but so simple.
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From: "enoonan" <enoonan@kent.edu>
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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 12:56 PM
Subject: MD I seem to be a verb

> Also if anyone is interested in reading the essay of Wilson's
>
> "I Seem to be a Verb"
>
> The wind is part of the process
> The rain is part of the process
> -- Ezra Pound, Canto 74
> Pound, beaten by rain and wind in his outdoor cage at Pisa, remembers a
bit
> from Kung-fu-tse, who also knew hard times. I think a lot these days about
> Dao, the ideogram Ez translates as "the process," and which most Americans
> still spell old-style as Tao. More traditional renderings turn Dao into a
> capitalized abstraction such as "the Way" or "the Path," and anybody
trying to
> understand them feels like their brain has just turned to oatmeal.
>
> Although too ignorant of Chinese to trust my own judgement, I have always
> preferred Ez's rendering of Dao as "process" on the basis of Ernest
> Fenollosa's claim that ideograms render "noun and verb as one -- things in
> motion, motion in things." That fits the world of modern physics, of
> perception psychology and of what little I think I know of Chinese. You
can
> imagine my delight when Daniel Coyle, a friend who recently [1999] earned
a
> Ph.D. in Chinese studies, assured me that Pound got it right.
>
> Dao, the process, seems more nitty-gritty and tangible since I acquired an
> apartment with a panoramic vista of Monterrey Bay and the surrounding
hills.
> The view never seems quite the same twice. Waves, sun, fogs, seasons,
dogs,
> dolphins, moons, planets, stars -- all seem flowing, as if every kind of
> evolution, cosmic to biological,parades before me.
>
> More and more I lose contact with "me" and flow with all else that
flows..the
> Dao-process.
>
> An old proverb of the Middle Kingdom says, "The wise become Confucian in
good
> times, Buddhist in bad times and Daoist in old age." If some pookah magick
> made me thirty years younger, in the present wretched state of this
nation,
> I'd have to become a Buddhist. Old age has its advantages. When pain keeps
me
> from writing, I eat a magick muffin, sit on the balcony and get totally
lost
> in the Dao.
>
> Yeah, even in the rain and wind.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Erin
>
>
>
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