Re: MD Meaning as a never-ending process

From: SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com
Date: Tue Jan 08 2002 - 02:48:01 GMT


Hebrew is a verb based language i believe?

Bohm wishes to include the notion of change within stated terms.
So, if i refer to a table as a verb i am including in the reference a
reminder that even tables change/are the products of evolution.
More than this, the term must also remind us that we are part of the whole
experience of what a table does/is; and visa versa for the table!
This would mean adopting a term like, 'Tabling' when i point to a table.
Weird i know, but please read his book?
Most fascinating!

After thinking about much of this for some time i have to tell you that i
have come to find my own language sticking in my throat when i use it.
I experience what one may term an annoying sense of cognitive dissonance
whenever i speak!

I like your thinking regarding the influence of language - you are a bit of a
philosopher in the more complete sense of wishing to explore topics from all
angles? ;)

All the very best,
Squonk.

In a message dated 1/7/02 9:01:06 PM GMT Standard Time, enoonan@kent.edu
writes:

<< Subj: MD Meaning as a never-ending process
 Date: 1/7/02 9:01:06 PM GMT Standard Time
 From: enoonan@kent.edu (enoonan)
 Sender: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
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 To: moq_discuss@moq.org (MOQ)
 
 Hi Squonk (verb),
 
 I have not read that book but have been really intersted in the effect of
 grammar. Once I heard a noun described as the place where a particular
action
 took place. There is also evidence of a difference in cogntive abilities
 between children raised with verb or object based languages.
 I keep wondering what is the difference of someone who switches to a verb
 based language vs someone who was raised in it vs someone who was raised
with
 equal emphasis on both. I think there is still a divide but a different
kind
 now
 
 
 Verb based language SOV (subject -object- verb)
 
 Noun based language SVO
 
 the divide is between objects and verbs, rather than subjects and objects
 
 So does Bohm think that if everyone raised in a verb based lanuage gets what
 you are claiming or does he think that is the analysis or comparison of the
 different languages that allow you to see this?
 
 Erin (verb)
 
 
 
 
 Wholeness and the implicate order by David Bohm is worth a read for his
 suggestion that our language is fragmenting our perceptions.
 A switch to a verb based language would reinforce the importance of
 recognising that all structures are transient and in a process of evolution.
 
 Squonk. (the verb)!
>>

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