RE: MD truth and reality

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Wed Jan 30 2002 - 22:27:23 GMT


Hi Erin, Amilcar:

> >PLATT: You cannot be absolutely certain of your own existence?
>
> ERIN: I can not be absolutely certain what "existence" is.
> I think my commonsense tells me that I am alive------but "it is commonsense
> that told people the world is flat"

I see we are getting nowhere fast. Here's what Amilcar wrote in a post
of 25 Jan:

"The slippery thing about consciousness is that is a presupposition
that we can't get around and still be consistent and sane. You have to
be conscious to think about consciousness. Otherwise, you fall into a
kind of solipism. So the two truths on which all, yes I said all, sane
thoughts are based on "consciousness" and "existence."

Erin, what if anything do you disagree with in this passage? I remind
you that the word "all" means 100 percent.

> ERIN-- truth=beauty is a duality to me and truthbeauty is not to me

What does the word "is" mean to you?

> PLATT: As for Schrodinger's Cat, the puzzle was not
> >whether the cat was absolutely dead or alive, but whether one could tell
> >without direct observation. Until then, the cat was absolutely in limbo.
>
> ERIN: Okay, then what if this limbo was the coexistence of life and death--
> life and death are like two sides of a coin.. So I guess I should word
> myself better and say I am not certain that I am 100% alive. Is this
> better or worse for you?

Once you observe yourself, you absolutely have to BE something
wouldn't you agree? Anyway, the Schrodinger puzzle was absolutely
certain that when the box was open, the cat would be absolutely dead
OR alive, like you can't be a little bit pregnant.

> >PLATT:Nothing wrong with saying "I 99% don't know." But supposedly that is
> >a 100% reflection of someone's thought about his level of knowledge. No
> >matter how you slice it, those nasty old absolutes keep popping up.
> >
> ERIN: I don't see what you are saying here. It isn't always 99% about
> everything. The percentage changes with the ambiguity of the topic, so
> where is this absolute your indicating?

The absolute I am indicating is your absolute statement "It isn't always
99% about everything," and your absolute belief that it is never 100% of
anything.

Platt
 

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