This distinction between reason and logic seems
quintessential late Wittgenstein. The Philosophical
Investigations hinged upon whether there were rules or
not? Rules are an expression of logic but only work
under reason. There are rules BUT rules only work when
you apply them and not before. So there is a temporal
element to rules, and was the theme of the book
"Wittgenstein's Poker" (Wittgenstein was going to poke
Popper with a red hot iron if Popper could not come up
with a rule, Popper said philosophers should not poke
other philosophers with an iron as a rule).
Anyway that is history. But I think we all operate in
parallel worlds: a world of logic and a world of
reason. A world of "thought" and a world of "vision."
Why vision? Vision represents the things in the world.
And that world is Dynamic. Thus, logic is static and
vision is dynamic. IE, Pirsig's thought. Reason is
dynamic. Think of a police negotiator for a suicide
jumper? He has to "reason" with him. Is there a rule?
Well there are certain patterns to follow but no rule.
So I think paraconsistent logic is the next frontier
of thought. "Paraconsistent" is equivalent to vision,
or reason I suppose. Here's a definition from a web
page: Reason (Ger Vernunft): The intellectual ability
to apprehend the truth cognitively, either immediately
in intuition, or by means of a process of inference
The problem with language is it gives primacy to
"logic." "Logos" is the word and the base for logic.
We need to open up to something beyond language and
beyond it's basis on logic. Until then, we will
continually fall into the traps of language. "Lila"
sort of worked because there was a "story" and a
"metaphysics." He uses "reason" in the form of a story
and "logic" in the form of a metaphysics. What is the
sound of one hand clapping?
Angus
--- enoonan <enoonan@kent.edu> wrote:
> Just to add on to Horse's statement
>
> laws of reason vs laws of logic
>
> All mosbies are zavvy
> Jeggar is a mosby
> Therefore jeggar is zavvy
>
>
> This is high quality according to the laws of logic
> but low quality in the
> laws of reason.
>
> Even if you want to go to
>
> All men are mortal
> Socrates is a man
> Therefore Socrates is a mortal
>
> Although this is high quality in the laws of logic
> it is only through
> reasoning of the premise that determines whether
> this is high or low quality
> of intellectual value.
>
>
> Erin
>
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