On 12 Feb 2002, at 13:02, Magnus Berg wrote:
> Hi Gavin
> > is the dual nature of light a good example of DQ/sq complementarity
> > - wave as DQ, particle as sq?
> No, I don't think so. I think it's a good example of a multi-level
> thing.
> Imagine a banana, there are (at least) two ways you can sense a
> banana. Either, you can look at it to see it (inorganic). Or, you can
> eat it to taste it, (biological). Similarly, there are two ways to
> sense light.
> Magnus
Hi Magnus, Gavin and Group.
The q-inorganic level hasn't been much visited of late so I am a little
rusty on the matter, but exactly this issue was aired several times
in the early days when the Doug Renselle was a member. Gavin,
you may try his "Quantonics" site and see if you can extract
something from there.
Regarding Magnus' take I'm not happy with it. What's the difference
between seeing and tasting ...if you take the sense approach? The
one of a objective banana out there and a subjective banana in our
mind? Seeing is as much "biological" as tasting. This SOM-thing is
what the MoQ is supposed to replace.
Someone even wanted the energy/matter duality to be a DQ/SQ
manifestation, but this is clearly inorganic business, while the
wave/particle phenomenon ...Hmmm? My scant knowledge of
particle physics says that the said dual nature isn't limited to light
alone but is an attribute of all matter, it's just the photons that can
be applied to the double slit experiment f.ex. My view is that the
wave aspect - which shows when going deep enough into the
matter realm - is the inorganic "order" emerging out of chaos
(which is DQ at the lower end)
In that sense it becomes a DQ/SQ phenomenon. Where I differed
from Doug Renselle in its time was his insistence on a quantum
level below the inorganic, something that would virtually
"undermine" the MoQ.
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