RE: MD Pirsig on Science

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Feb 23 2002 - 22:34:00 GMT


Hi Rick, Horse, Erin, All:

> RICK
> Yet, another specious strawman.
> Of course 'erasing' persons from photos for political purposes is
> frighteningly immoral. I'd expect we'd all enthusiastically agree with
> that. But what's at issue is instances in which an Intellectual pattern is
> replaced with a higher quality Intellectual Pattern and the replacement is
> brought about because of the latter's higher Quality (ie. Better agreement
> with experience, more economic in explanation, more logically consistent,
> etc). Your example only addresses instances in which the replacement is
> coerced by an oppressive, anti-intellectual social pattern.
> But that a lower pattern controlling higher pattern is (usually)
> immoral
> is Metaphysics of Quality101. The advanced point in the quote was that
> truth is provisional. You (correctly) point out that this provisional
> quality is open to abuse by society and can lead to Intellectual
> degeneration, but what you seem to miss is that the eraser on Pirsig's
> Intellectual pencil is Dynamic Quality acting on truth. The eraser in your
> strawman is Social patterns acting on truth.

Yet, another blowing of thick smoke. You have yet to refute the many
examples of absolute truth I have given in previous posts ranging from
insignificant statements in LILA to the horror of the Holocaust. If you
want to stand up in court and deny the destruction of the Trade Towers
or, like Erin, the inevitability of death, be my guest. I don't think a judge
will be amused.

Also, if you can't see that the statement, "All we've got is a handful of
sand off of an endless landscape" purports to be an absolute truth,
then there is absolutely no point in continuing this particular
discussion which has gone on far too long anyway.

So I rest my case and turn the matter over to the MD jury, much to the
gratitude of many on the list I'm sure. (-:

Platt

 

 

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