RE: MD Pirsig on Science

From: enoonan (enoonan@kent.edu)
Date: Sun Feb 24 2002 - 02:25:06 GMT


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Hi Rod,

Although I did want to end this because I was growing tired of the same type
of example of absolutes ("victims died, victims died you heartless beast!!")
I do appreciate your listing of specific examples and may be willing to start
back in again.
I have a feeling you know more about physics then I so hopefully we may reach
some midpoint.
Although I would hold these as truths I have a hard time classifying them as
absolute truths because they are theoretical and thus they are not proven.
 I would be interested in the evidence supporting #3, do you know how that was
derived? To me if you made these absolutes, I would have to accept them on
faith but just subsituting Fr. Religion with Fr. Physics. I don't think
science ever intended to be dogmatic so why make it so?

Also what would your response be to this?
"The quantum revolution undermines the notion of a Newtonian clockwork
universe operating deterministically according to a divine plan. Random chance
appears to play a significant role in events. And, if quantum mechanics indeed
indicates that chance is inherent in nature, chaos theory and the other new
sciences of complexity have demonstrated how chance processes in sufficiently
complex systems can generate order and beauty with no preexistent design.
Structure and beauty can be simulated on a computer running the simple
algorithm of the Mandelbrot set or other nonlinear procedures. Genetic
algorithms can produce artificial life in a computer with completely form."
Stenger

Thanks,

Erin

>
>ROD:
>1. time always moves forward
>
>2. light moves away from an object at C - the speed of light, C (the
>constant) may change , but light will still move away from an object at C
>
>3. each dimension in the universe runs at an equal angle away from all
>others
>

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