I realize a lot of posts have flown under the bridge
since this one, but still, I'd like to give it a shot.
--- Rod <ramrod@madasafish.com> wrote:
> Horse
>
> I have to take task with you on this and I find
> myself aligning with Platt,
> there are absolutes (truths)
>
> For example:-
>
> 1. time always moves forward
Plato and Einstein have opined that there isn't any
"time" that is moving forward, only our observation of
an essentially timeless reality. Some mystics claim to
experience this timeless reality. Then there is the
old Zen saying"
"Is it the banner or the wind that is moving?"
"Neither. It is your mind that is moving"
Julian Barbour (a physicist, definitely not a mystic)
has provided a theory without time in "The End of
Time".
The point is not whether you agree with any of these
viewpoints, but that they exist, and can't be
dismissed by rigorous proof, or by any known
experiment. In short, time has for a long time (sic)
been a philosophical conundrum. *We* only experience
time moving along in one direction, but is that
absolutely true for everything? A positron can be
understood as an electron moving backwards in time.
>
> 2. light moves away from an object at C - the speed
> of light, C (the
> constant) may change , but light will still move
> away from an object at C
The Special Theory of Relativity, which *assumes* that
c is constant, so this is circular. The theory has no
counter evidence, but who is to say that something
won't come along later (especially since reltativity
and quantum mechanics are incompatible). (If I'm
interpreting this right. How can a constant change,
other than by using different units of measurement?
Otherwise, all you are saying is that the speed of
light will always be the speed of light).
>
> 3. each dimension in the universe runs at an equal
> angle away from all
> others
Is the angle at which time runs away from the others
the same as that which the three spatial dimensions
run away from the other spatial ones? Can't see that
it makes sense. In any case, if you're referring to
the 3-dimensional coordinate system, you can have any
angles you want, though some are easier to compute
with than others. But again, I may be
misunderstanding.
- Scott
>
>
> I'd like to see anyone counter these
>
> Rod
>
>
>
>
>
> on 2/23/02 12:46 AM, Horse at horse@darkstar.uk.net
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Absolute - Unconditional, unlimited,
> >
> >
> > If something is absolutely true then there can be
> no exceptions but in order
> > for this to be
> > valid it is necessary to have absolute knowledge
> and as we don't have absolute
> > knowledge of all things relating to science (or
> anything else for that matter)
> > we can't be
> > absolutely certain of the absolute nature of
> Science.
> >
> > Something can be absolutely true by definition (a
> batchelor is an unmarried
> > man) or by
> > logical derivation (X=X) but that's about as far
> as we can go with absolutes.
> > Our
> > knowledge of the world is incomplete and thus
> provisional so to make a
> > statement about
> > it's nature in absolute terms is non-sensical.
> >
> > But as I don't have absolute knowlege I could be
> wrong.
> >
> >
> > Horse
> >
> >
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