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>GLENN:
>By 'irrevelant' and 'unreal' I think he is emphasizing the cultural
>understanding that, for the relatively few people who do see it, the
>D. light is something that either gets in the way of objectivity, like
>eyeblinks, or is subjective (it's all in your head).
>
ERIN: I interpreted that we all have the ability to see dharmakaya light but
most people will not pursue seeing it because it considered as getting in the
way of objectivity or is subjective. We don't count our eyeblinks everyday
--that doesn't mean our eyeblinks are subjective but that the information
doesn't contribute to our objective knowledge.
GLENN: >
>Pirsig doesn't think the light is supernatural, but it seems that the
>cause of the pupil over-dilations are, and he thinks there's plenty of
>mystic import associated with the light. Pirsig suggests that pupils often
>over-dilate when you have Dynamic Quality experiences.
ERIN: I think you need to defend the claim why you think Pirisg claims pupil
dilation has a supernatural cause. My guess is Pirsig does not have mystic =
supernatural.
GLENN: OK. I'll agree it's a biological explanation to a point, but there's no
>biological explanation for why the pupils over-dilate. For that he's
>attributed a mystical cause. I can't agree with him when he says his is an
>explanation *grounded* in physical reality. I think in this day and age we
>should be able to expect an explanation in terms of biology for why pupils
>might over-dilate.
>
ERIN; Okay he didnt't explain this but he probably had the draw a line
somewhere with the explanations, the story will get too dull if you turn it
into textbook. I think we all have an understanding of individual differences
and some components that may attribute to the individual differences..why are
you expecting Pirsig to have a complete personality theory in the explanation?
If I gave a theory of what I thought intelligence was it wouldn't necessarily
have to explain why Stephen Hawking was smart and why a certain president
wasn't.
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