DMB, all
The nice thing about our ability to recognize patterns; is our ability
to recognize patterns. 1, 2,......
3. > Its nothing less than an effort to make America live up to her own
ideals, and to
> fight the long-standing SOCIAL conventions and attitudes that contradict those
> ideals
4.> Yes, SOCIETY is making progress and things are getting worse too.
Its a
> raging battle.
5.> the MOQ accomodates political and religious views without bias.
Pirsig praises
> Lincoln, Ghandi and MLK and he describes Fascism as anti-intellectual
> reaction, as SOCIAL values gone mad.
6.> The SOCIAL level. Seems like nothing has caused more confusion than
the third
> level.
7. > The SOCIAL level is about society, right? Its about the "giant", the
> collective, right?
8.> i have a book called 'lsd, man and SOCIETY' filled with
> psychiatric case studies - in the US in the 50s and 60s - that describes
> this in detail.
> perhaps these are 'extended glimpses' of DQ?
9.> The 3rd level [SOCIAL]seems to be the source of endless debate and
> misunderstandings.
Oopps 10,11
12> equation SOCIAL=unconscious (is this what you're after, David?)
> Nope. I don't like the equation either. And yes, my only purpose is to
> clarify the levels.
13> Even further, I'd like to add that this is one of the interesting things
> about the SOCIAL level, especially the unconscious, which is the source of
> all mythological systems and all religions.
14> was trying to get very specific by making just
> two points about one issue, the nature of SOCIAL level.
OK, these are quotes from 12 of your first 14 posts after your 2 year
hiatus. I could go on through the rest but I'm quite sure the you see
pattern in CAPS. I am confident I could go on with similar results but
then 15 came up:
15> Pirsig opens the 22nd chapter by describing the
> 20th century as a hurricane, as a ferocious *moral* battle between SOCIAL
> and intellectual values.
> And sadly, I think there are particpants in this
> forum who are often fighting on the wrong side in that war.
Now the questions are:
Which side do you see yourself on?
and
Which side do you appear to others to be on?
and
Which side are you in reality on?
Hint: They're all rhetorical questions, read the 13 items above.
Another Hint: On what level does Pirsig place religion and politics?
You got it!
3WD
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