on 16/3/02 1:02 am, Valence at valence10@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hey Rod,
>
> ROD
>> We cannot all be of equal value to society, harsh but true...
>
> RICK
> But in the MOQ morality depends on a given event/individual's effect on
> evolution. Foresight is too limited to allow us to know for sure who will
> and won't be evolutionarily valuable... that's for the historians. The best
> we can do in advance is guess...
Exactly my point
> ROD
>> How we identify those patterns of higher value is key.
>>
>> A) Patterns which are of greater service to the progress of society must
> be
>> of higher value than patterns which only serve the individual.
>
> RICK
> The Intellectual level prescribes laws that foster Freedom of speech, habeas
> corpus, freedom of travel and assembly, etc... these are patterns that
> serve Intellectual ends at the expense of social 'order'... And they are the
> ones that Pirsig describes as the most moral. I think you're 'rule' would
> be better to say "Social patterns that serve both Intellect and Society are
> of higher value than Social patterns which only serve Society"... that's the
> MOQ. Of course, figuring out which ones will and won't serve Intellect is
> the whole trick.
>
> But they don't threaten society in any way, they don't hinder the progress of
society, they are in fact the lifelines society has to experiment with
itself. These patterns serve both the individual and society.
>
> rick
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