Re: MD Lobbying for a haitus of the word "Mysticism" or any derivative thereof

From: SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com
Date: Sat Mar 16 2002 - 19:55:18 GMT


In a message dated 3/16/02 2:01:28 PM GMT Standard Time,
thracianbard@worldnet.att.net writes:

<< Subj: MD Lobbying for a haitus of the word "Mysticism" or any
derivative thereof
 Date: 3/16/02 2:01:28 PM GMT Standard Time
 From: thracianbard@worldnet.att.net (Stephen Paul)
 Sender: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
 Reply-to: moq_discuss@moq.org
 To: moq_discuss@moq.org (moq_discuss@moq.org)
 
 Dear Colleagues,
 
 In an effort to propel this group's important discussions into a
 universally more meaningful realm for all of the members globally, I
 feel that it is important to poll my colleagues to find out if I am the
 only one disturbed by the frequent use of the word "mysticism" and its
 derivatives. Since these discussions are meant to be potentially
 enlightening, I find it very perturbing to constantly hear a word that
 by definition means "other-worldly" or "mysterious" used to describe
 practises and beliefs that are anything but other-worldly or mysterious
 to its practitioners. Judeo-Christian practises are far more other
 worldly than Taoism, Zen, Buddhism, Confucianism ever were. In fact, the
 Eastern approaches that I have just listed are among those that are more
 integrated with the physical world and everyday life (therefore,
 science) than the majority of Western practises. IMHO, Lao Tze would
 never have considered himself as a mystic, nor would Confucius, Buddha,
 the Dalai Lama, or Krishnamurti, to name a few. For that matter, neither
 would Jesus - and his teachings are remarkably similar to those of the
 Eastern teachers mentioned. Is not the use of "mysticism" (particularly
 when describing eastern belief systems) merely a cultural bias by many
 of our members (and yes, by Pirsig too in his writings)?
 
 I encourage all of the participants across the globe to respond to this
 poll, and if enough of us find this term less than dynamic and
 meaningful, possibly, as a society, we can find a better, less
 prejudicial, way to describe these fundamental beliefs and practises.
 
 With all respect,
 
 The Bard
>>

A suspicion that reality is largely beyond sensual and intellectual access
may be described as mystical?
I personally prefer Transcendence.
Words are rather inadequate so let us not get too upset by them?

All the best,
Squonk.

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