Platt, DMB
Platt
Please don't talk about things you know little about, specifically, how the
absence of handguns in the UK led to a rise in crime, try to get your point
across some other way.
Cheers
Rod
on 24/3/02 2:42 pm, Platt Holden at pholden@sc.rr.com wrote:
> Hi David B.
> .
>> Nevertheless, if we can begin to talk about how to preserve dynamic
>> economies and free markets while AT THE SAME TIME making sure that these
>> elements are intellectually guided in a way that includes human rights,
>> which is clearly the morally superior way to go - well, then I think you're
>> really onto something and a real conversation has begun.
>
> You might start the conversation by specifying those human rights that
> are not already protected by U.S. law.
>
>> Pirsig is pointing out the good things about free markets and spelling out
>> things that economists have never really understood, but its wrong to
>> construe his quotes as a blanket endorsement of capitalism, especially
>> considering that he explicitly says that socialism is morally superior. You
>> know it. Its in one of the quotes you selected. I'm tempted to call you
>> names for such an obvious blunder, but let's just say it was a mistake made
>> in the heat of the moment.
>
> Speaking of blunders and selective quotes, how come you saw fit to
> omit what Pirsig pointed out was the defect in socialism?
>
> "But what the socialists left out and what has all but killed their whole
> undertaking is an absence of a concept of indefinite Dynamic Quality.
> You go to any socialist city and it's always a dull place because there's
> little Dynamic Quality." (Chap. 17)
>
> I can readily accept why conservatives have no clue why capitalism is
> so good, as Pirsig explains. But, perhaps you can't accept the pain of
> knowing your precious socialism is fatally flawed and morally deficient.
> But, if you look for relief from your pain in Canada or Great Britain under
> their socialistic health systems, be prepared to get in line for a long
> wait. Also, ever since England banned private ownership of hand guns,
> crime has skyrocketed. Will do-gooders ever learn?
>
> Platt
>
>
>
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