Hi Angus,
I am closer to understanding but not quite there yet.
IMO, Pirsig is misquided in emphasizing
>his metaphysics because people interpret metaphysics
>in a logical way. They don't see the parallel universe
>of ideas in time, they only see metaphysics in space
I think where I am not completely sold is the "hierarchy" of the MoQ.
You mentioned about something about the liberty to be degenerate in the
previous email and others talking about the idealism in MoQ.
I don't think quality is going in one direction. I think Phaedrus and Lila are
going in opposite directions and he is on a higher level from HIS
perspective. I also think that Pirisig shows how his idealism has a bit of
degeneracy in it and Lila's degeneracy has a bit of idealism in it.
"I understood that when you love you must either, in your reasonings about
that love, start from what is highest, from what is more important than
happiness or unhappiness, sin or virtue in their accepted meaning, or you must
not reason at all." Chekhov
Angus: The spatial
>logic of "know thyself" is logical. The temporal logic
>is an action, and that action is love. As you can see
>my metaphysics is radical and paraconsistent. I think
>you can interpret LILA with my view and it works,
>which is why I still hang around here. LILA is a story
>(dynamic logic) and a set of rules (static logic).
>Emphasizing MOQ is wrong by half.
ERIN:
Wouldn't it be the MOQ is incomplete without its context?
What is wrong by half is the mapped out version but is that version entirely
capturing the MOQ?
ANGUS: As for love as valuing, that's not quite right, by
>half. Love as valuing is spatial logic, not dynamic
>logic. Dynamic love is an unabashed surrender into the
>flow of the moment. It has no object as a valuing
>would. Of course, in a paraconsistent logic, love has
>both spatial and dynamic logic. Dynamic love is love that surrenders but
posits no object.
ERIN: I like how you describe it but I still don't understand why valuing
can't have spatial and dynamic logic.
I like Joyce's description of epiphany. If you would do me a favor and read it
and tell me how that differs from love then it will help to see what I am
missing.
http://theliterarylink.com/joyce.html
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