RE: MD Middle East Bias -- A Test

From: Lawrence DeBivort (debivort@umd5.umd.edu)
Date: Sat Apr 20 2002 - 13:15:06 BST


Greetings, Nargess,

Rest assured: in none of its parts does the Quran state or imply that 'other
religious groups are evil and must be killed'. This is just another of
Roger's flights of fancy when it comes to Islam, the Middle East, and
Palestinians and Israelis. My guess is that he was amusing himself through
provocation, because a couple of days later, he actually posted something on
a Palestinian/Israeli solution that was fairly thoughtful, incongruent with
his 'test questions', and offered a step in the right direction.

Isn't there something in the Quran about being patient and teaching the
ignorant?

Lawry

  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
[mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]On Behalf Of nargess sabeti
  Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 6:43 AM
  To: moq_discuss@moq.org
  Subject: Re: MD Middle East Bias -- A Test

  dear Rog ,

  Please tell me where of the muslims' texbook it was said that "an other
religious groups are evil and they must be killed"?

  It is very important because I have read Holy Qoran and I am certain that
it was not saidthere.Please determine the place of it and if you have not
read that ,please search and be certain about the truth.

  Nargess.

    RISKYBIZ9@aol.com wrote:

    To: Everyone
    From: Rog

    Rod, Gav, Rasheed and others are dismissing views that contradict their
own
    as products of brainwashing, biased media, Orwellian distortion, etc. At
    first I thought they were just adopting one of David's little
social-level,
    rhetorical tricks of winning the argument by undermining their
opponents'
    credibility. But on further thought, how can I be sure that they aren't
    right? I am no Middle East expert. Perhaps I am making a decision based
upon
    incorrect and biased facts. So, to test this, I thought I should lay out
the
    supposed facts that I am acting upon, giving them a chance to let me
know
    where they disagree.

    To accomplish this, I wrote up a little test that shows what I believe
to be
    the case. I ask questions like in high school and then offer a believed
    correct and an incorrect answer. In every case, the ! answer in **'s is
the
    one I BELIEVE is true. If I am wrong, please help me see where.

    1. Which people cheered on the streets on 9/11?
    a) Israelies
    b) *Palestinians*

    2. Who, in 2000, refused an offer to give the Palestinians 97% of the
west
    bank -- in a contiguous area -- shared control of Jerusalem, a capitol
in
    Jerusalem, and the right for Palestinians refugees everywhere to return
to
    the new homeland?
    a) *Arafat*
    b) Barak

    3. True or false -- Palestine was a British mandate given to Jews and
    Palestinian Arabs after WWI from the remnants of the Turkish Empire?
    a) *true*
    b) false

    4. 80% of Palestinian land is in which country?
    a) *Jordan*
    b) Israel

    5. Prior to Israeli occupation, the West Bank and Gaza Strip were
controlled
    by..
    a) The free state of Palestine
    b) *Jordan and Egypt*

    6. Israel occupied these two areas because...
    a) They attacked peaceful arab neighbors in a land gr! ab
    b) *They captured it in a battle while defending themse! lves from
attempted
    arab annihilation*

    7. Which people have textbooks teaching their children that another
religious
    group is evil and must be killed?
    a) Israelis
    b) *Palestinians*

    8. Whose government-run newspaper ran a headline praising Adolph Eichman
with
    "The Honor of Killing 6 Million" people?
    a) America's
    b) *Saudi Arabia's*

    9. Which side of the struggle pays $25 to $50K to the families of
suicide
    bombers that kill mothers and children?
    a) Jews
    b) *Arabs*

    10. A representative of which country boasted that the final solution to
the
    middle east problem was in getting nuclear weapons?
    a) Israel
    b) *Iran*

    11. Whose covenants of 1968 specifically state that "the establishment
of
    Israel is fundamentally null and void" and that it "is a national
duty....to
    purge the Zionist presence."?
    a) *Palestine's*
    b) France's

    12. Whose geography maps in school don't show Israel?
    a) *Pal! estinians'*
    b) Turkey's

    13. Palestinians are denied employment, healthcare and government
services
    in...
    a) Israeli occupied territories
    b) *Lebanon*

    14. Who ethnically cleansed (deported) hundreds of thousands of
Palestinians
    about a decade ago?
    a) *Kuwait*
    b) Israel

    15. Who provides sanctuary and support for some of the most wanted
terrorists
    and suicide bombers and also celebrates murderous martyrdom?
    a) Clinton
    b) *Arafat*

    Please correct my test above, and help me become aware of my
indoctrination.
    I can't progress until I learn.

    Rog

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