Re: MD From Struan Hellier

From: gavin gee-clough (gavgc@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Apr 26 2002 - 09:45:23 BST


To struan,
mate, how about coming up with some original stuff - your own ideas perhaps
and how they deviate from pirsig's and others' on the list - instead of just
moaning.
okay?
gav

>From: gmbbradford@netscape.net (Glenn Bradford)
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>Subject: MD From Struan Hellier
>Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:04:58 -0400
>
>THIS POSTING IS COMPOSED ENTIRELY BY ME (STRUAN HELLIER), NOT GLENN AND
>THEREFORE SHOULD NOT IN ANY WAY BE TAKEN AS REFLECTING GLENN'S POINT OF
>VIEW OR INDICATING HIS APPROVAL OF THE CONTENT, STYLE OR AUTHOR.
>
>Greetings,
>
>Firstly, Horse has not sent me any communication telling me that I had
>been removed from the list or asking me not to post again. If he had, I
>would have got it. I find it interesting that Horse also claims that he
>'couldn't care less' if I remain here. Clearly the phrase 'couldn't care
>less' has now been redefined to mean its opposite. Very moq.
>
>Horse's offer of allowing me to be piggy-backed in is also very odd. I
>am not sure if Horse has noticed, but that is already happening and I
>don't need to sign up to some pact or give my word about anything for it
>to continue. The only difference now is that Horse will remove anyone
>who helps me if he doesn't like what I write. In other words, Horse has
>seen that I am still at liberty to contribute and is now threatening
>with expulsion those who help me! How this can be seen as a compromise I
>am at a loss to understand and given the fact that Horse will be the
>arbiter of what is acceptable, it seems like just another excuse to
>silence dissent.
>
>I am very grateful for the massive support I have received, both on and
>off the list, although I am of course aware that much of it is support
>for a principle rather than support for me 'per se'. Especially, I am
>grateful to the members (including lurkers) who have offered to piggy
>back me in as often as I like and without censorship, despite the
>possible consequences.
>
>So where from here? Given that Horse is undoubtedly the worst culprit
>for insulting behaviour on this forum, the obvious solution is for Horse
>to stop his abuse, allow my subscription and then refrain from insulting
>me in the future. I will, of course, reciprocate in kind. Realistically,
>this is unlikely to happen and that is great, because it means that I
>can pop up every now and then to point out the censorship prevalent
>here, quote directly from Horse's abusive messages to me, and allow
>others to draw conclusions from them. If Horse wants to continue to
>damage his own integrity and this forum then I can, and will, applaud
>him from the sidelines and draw it to everyone's attention on a regular
>basis.
>
>I am certainly relieved that I do not accept the moq, for if I did
>Horse's behaviour would probably force me to leave.
>
>Struan
>------------
>struan@clara.co.uk
>
>
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