platt:
"Liberals talk about
>individual freedom, but apparently cannot comprehend its meaning--
>freedom from government interference and intrusion into your life."
platt,
in a (real) democracy you *are* the government, which is another way of
saying that you - in connection with your community, town, city etc - get to
shape your own life to a much greater extent than if your power/freedom is
reduced to a choice between pepsi or coke, either at the supermarket or the
polling booth.
cheers
gav
>From: "Platt Holden" <pholden@sc.rr.com>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>Subject: RE: MD What can we know
>Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:09:39 -0400
>
>Hi Elliot, Dave B., All:
>
> > Elliot:
> > Regardless of what wilber says, i hope you dont think the MoQ pushes any
> > sort of political agenda, not even liberalism. The current society is
>very
> > strong and the current intellectual level is very weak. Society still
> > dictates values, making it the dominant level (despit the fact that
>society
> > dictates some values that promote intellect, that is for its own gains).
>If
> > the MoQ does point in a political direction, it is not towards societal
> > control of either economic nor individual values, it would be the
> > liberation of individuals from both. Although liberalism, with its
>values
> > more centered on individual rights, is a better path towrds this, it is
> > still basically the subordination of individuals to society (a lower
>level
> > devouring a higher one) and is thus not advocated by the MoQ.
> >
> > Athoritarian is not conservative. Conservatives would leave the market
> > relatively free which would not be an athoritarian action. the
>political
> > universe is not one dimensional.
>
>Nicely stated, and a correct interpretation of the MOQ. Liberals won't
>admit of their willingness to subordinate individuals to society. But one
>need only read David B.'s defense of taxation in his post to me of 28
>April to grasp their enthusiasm for digging deeper in your pocket in
>order to buy votes by sending out government checks. Liberals simply
>do not understand that to the extent an individual who labors cannot
>keep the product of his labor, he is a slave. Liberals talk about
>individual freedom, but apparently cannot comprehend its meaning--
>freedom from government interference and intrusion into your life.
>
>Platt
>
>
>
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