Good call Andre. That's hilarious.
>I am reminded of the film "Life of Brian"
>
>Brian says, "We're all individuals!"
>
>Man in crowd says, "I'm not!"
>
>:o)
>André
>
> --- Scott Thornberry <scotlberry@yahoo.com> wrote: >
>Erin,
>>
>> --- enoonan <enoonan@kent.edu> wrote:
>> > Glad we agree diversity is good. I am still not
>> > clear why you thought the MoQ
>> > would not be diverse. (consider Pirsig's
>> distinction
>> > between philosophy and
>> > philosophology(?) --which were you expecting?).
>> > You are finding this forum diverse AND
>> cultish--huh?
>>
>> Scott:
>> Point taken (philosophy vs philosophology)! My
>> problem is articulating my position clearly. My
>> assumption was that there is more or less one
>> destination, Quality, with many paths to get there
>> (this is the diversity I expected). My surprise at
>> the "diversity" (perhaps a poor choice of words
>> after
>> all) that I have found, was that there appears to be
>> many destinations (the pointing in so many different
>> directions), not my understanding of a monistic
>> conception of reality! I emphasize, again, that it
>> is
>> not a criticism! I actually do NOT think this forum
>> to
>> be cultish - just without context (the outsider
>> looking in) it seems that way! Probably more like
>> it,
>> the outsider would think we were a bunch of nerds
>> :-)
>>
>> > ERIN: First in a global community there is no
>> > "out".
>> > There is no "president of the world" dictating
>> what
>> > should happen either.
>> > The different countries have different needs.
>> > I do share your desire to keep the diversity but I
>> > would like to think it is
>> > possible that you can have a collective morality
>> and
>> > diversity.
>>
>> Scott:
>> Collective morality, collective behavior elicits the
>> image of a group of people acting in complete
>> unison.
>> As such it is the antithesis of diversity.
>> Collectivism = one unified response. Diversity = a
>> multitude of responses. There is no "out" only if
>> we
>> "relinquish our (individual) sovereignty."
>>
>> Erin:
>> > I think my major concern is that a system may be
>> > disguised as for the
>> > individuals but at the cost of diversity.
>> > Capitalism--mixed feelings.
>> > I think it is for the individual and it is costing
>> > the world diversity!!
>>
>> Scott:
>> The more you look at individuals, the more diversity
>> you see! The more you look away from individuals
>> (towards the group/collective), the less diversity
>> you
>> see. I think that this is a truism.
>>
>> Erin:
>> > As for the collective morality being fictitious--
>> do
>> > you think the social
>> > level is fictitious? you know the levels are
>> > patterns of VALUES?
>>
>> Scott:
>> Collective morality is dangerous! In that respect it
>> is very real. It destroys lives (and not
>> indiscriminately)! There is nothing fictitious about
>> that. It's the 'collective' (the group that
>> collective morality seeks to guide) that is
>> fictitious!
>>
>> Scott L Berry
>>
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