Hi DMB:
In response to my claim that Wilber is strictly a subject-object man, you
wrote:
> He's strictly a subject-object man? I think not.
>
> "With empirical science there can be little quarrel, but with scientism...
> well, scientism is a different beast. And here we might as well start to
> look at the bad news, which is the FAILURE TO INTEGRATE THE BIG THREE.
> Consciousness, morals, and science had indeed been freed fromtheir magic
> and their mythic indissociation; each domain was set loose with its own
> power and its own truth and it own approach to the Kosmos, each of which
> had something EQUALLY important to say. But by the end of the 18th century,
> the rapid, indeed extraordinary developmnet of science began to throw the
> whole system off balance. The advances of the it-domain began to eclipse,
> and then actually DENY, the values and truths of the I and the we domans.
> The big three began to collapse into the big one: empirical science, and
> science alone, could pronounce on ultimate reality. Science, as we say,
> became scientism, which means it didn't just pursue it own truths, it
> aggressively denied that there were any other truths at all! Only objective
> its with simple location were really real. The entire interior dimensions
> were completely gutted, and the ghost in the machine began its sad and
> lonely modern moan, a haunting cry made all the more plaintive in that it
> had not even the power to attract attention. When only objective its with
> simple location are really real, then the mind itself is a tabula that is
> totally rasa, utterly blank until filled with PICTURES or representations
> of the only reality there was: objective and sensory nature. There is no
> real SPIRIT, there is no real MIND, there is only empirical nature. No
> superconsciousness, no self-conscious, only subconscious processes
> scurrying endlessly, meaninglessly, in a vast system of interwoven its."
> Ken Wilber's A BRIEF HISTORY OF EVERYTHING pages 264-5.
Thanks for confirming my claim. Wilber's "it-domain" is objective. His "I
and we domains" are subjective. Strictly old school divisions.
Platt
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