RE: MD Failure of the Enlightenment

From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Sun May 26 2002 - 01:06:19 BST


ERIN: Trust me, I did not take it with a heavy- hearted way. Feel free to
use
any type of humor when making a point but I was just trying to be let in on
the joke.
I just don't see what is so funny. I wrote a post about enlightenment when
you were talking the postmodern response to Enlightenment---how absurd of
me.
The age of Enlightenment were optimistic by using the universal values of
science, reason, and logic they could get rid of all myths that kept
humanity
from progressing.
Enlightenment held a myth about a particular path toward enlightment.
Don't you think an age that was called "Enlightenment" may have been called
that due to a particular conception of enlightenment-----or did they just
pull
the name out of their ass.

DMB says:
I said soap from the store, not soap opera star. (humor) But, seriously...
One of the most devastating failures of The Enlightenment was that it has
the effect of destroying spirituality. The kind of "enlightened" progress
that it sought and advocated was materialistic, scientific, and political.
It relegated spiritual matters into the dust bin of superstition and
ignorance. The Enlightenment is utterly hostile to mysticism. Science and
religion have been at odds ever since. Which, incidentally, is why I thought
your first response was funny. Because they're so opposite.

>DMB says:
>I'm just saying that enlightenment of the spiritual sort was not the topic
>of my post. The failure that it refered to was of a historical nature, not
a
>mystical one. I didn't notice your use of capitalization, and that issue
>never crossed my mind. But I thought the misunderstanding was kinda funny.
>See?
>
>
>DMB originally SAID:
>In the
>intellectual level's attempt to assert itself over social level values it
>has ignored and destroyed them. This is the failure of the enlightenment.
>This is what the MOQ attempts to fix.
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