In a message dated 5/26/02 7:06:19 PM GMT Daylight Time,
gershomdreamer@yahoo.com writes:
<< Subj: Re: MD Schematic
Date: 5/26/02 7:06:19 PM GMT Daylight Time
From: gershomdreamer@yahoo.com (Gary Jaron)
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> > Squonk: One may wish to write poetry if one wishes to be rather less
> classical about
> > this? I do not feel driving oneself into deeper classical territory
will
> be helpful
> > at this stage as we are surrounded by quite enough if that as it is.
>
> Gary's response: Okay, I'll stop with the heavy classical. How about a
> Romantic question? If Quality is the Tao, then we might ask what is Yin
and
> what is Yang? Is Romantic Q the Yin? Is Classical Q the Yang? Is
Dynamic
> Q the Yang? Is Static Q the Yin?
>
> Yin is associated with 'The Receptive' in the I Ching. Yang is
associated
> with 'The Creative' in the I Ching. I will quote from 'The Great
Treatiise'
> , the 'Ta Chuan', the first commentary on the I Ching. The following is
> from the first chapter:
> "The greatest forces are Creative and Receptive. Listen: The process of
> Creative completes things through Yang. The process of Receptive
completes
> things through Yin. Creative knows the great beginnings. Receptive
makes
> and completes all things. Creative knows through the easy. Receptive can
do
> things through the simple. What is easy, is easy to know; what is simple
is
> easy to follow....By means of the easy and the simple we grasp the laws
of
> the whole world. When the lasw of the whole world are grasped, therein
lies
> perfection."
> How is that for poetry? That should appeal to your Romantic Soul/Mind.
> Gary Jaron, a simple student of the Tao.
> >>
>
>
> Hi Gary,
> If Quality is the Tao must we tie down Yin and Yang?
> I suspect Yin and Yang are found where ever there is mutuality?
>
> Tyger Tyger burning bright,
> In the forests of the night,
> What immortal hand or eye,
> Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
>
> In what distant deeps or skies,
> Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
> On what wings dare he aspire?
> What the hand dare sieze the fire?
>
> And what shoulder, and what art,
> Could twist sinews of thy heart?
> And when thy heart began to beat,
> What dread hand? and what dread feet?
>
>
> What the hammer? and what the chain,
> In what furnace was thy brain?
> What the anvil? what dread grasp,
> Dare its deadly terrors clasp!
>
> When the stars threw down their spears
> And water'd heaven with their tears:
> Did he smile his work to see?
> Did he who made the Lamb make thee?
> Tyger Tyger burning bright,
> In the forests of the night,
> What immortal hand or eye,
> Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
>
Hey Squonk!
Thanks for the William Blake!
Here some Chuang Tsu (translated by Thomas Cleary)
"Therefore there is that which distinction does not distinguish, there is
that which explanation does not explain. What is it? Sages take it to
heart, average people try to explain it to each other. That is why it is
said that there is something not seen by explanation.
The Great Tao is not called anything: great discernment is unspoken; great
humanness is unsentimental; great honesty is not complacent; great bravery
is not vicious.
When a way [the Tao?] is illustrious, it does not guide; when
humanitarianism is fixated, it is not trusted; when bravery is vicious, it
does not succeed. These five things are like looking for squarenss in
something round.
So we know that to stop at what we don't know is as far as we can go. Who
knows the unspoken explanation, the unexpressed Tao? Among those who do
know, this is called the celestial storehouse: we can pour into it without
filling it, we can draw from it without exhausting it; and yet we don't know
where it comes from. This is called hidden illumination."
Gary
>>
Nice!
Squonk. :)
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