Re: MD Failure of the Enlightenment

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Mon May 27 2002 - 18:34:12 BST


Hi Patrick:

You wrote:

> But replacing SOM with another metaphysics which puts
> experience in front, is not original, certainly in the previous century. I
> admire Pirsig in his attempt to point to the essence of quality, and his
> rather rigid intellectual attempt to formulate a 'Metaphysics of Quality',
> but I admire a few others who more or less point to the same, equally. The
> people below have all the same 'metaphysics' in common, in that they see
> experience as fundamental, and not an objective world cut off from our
> nihilistic and lonely selfs who only can know the objective reality through
> for-ever inperfect senses and thoughts.

Of all those you went on to list that say experience or consciousness is
essential to reality, none proposed like Pirsig that the world (universe) is
a "moral order" consisting not of subjects and objects but "patterns of
value." That's what makes his philosophy original and so difficult for
many to accept.

Can you cite others who claim that morality is reality?

Incidentally, I'm a great fan of Penrose and Chalmers. I think the brain
taps into fundamental consciousness rather than creating it, just as
other body organs depend for their function on environmental inputs.

Platt

 

   

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