Dear Patrick,
A 'dooddoener' translates into a 'bromide' or 'unanswerable remark'
according to my Dutch - English dictionary...
Your 20/6 9:31 -0700 posting raised an interesting question for me however.
You wrote:
'we can never experience the unconsciousness. It is some kind of "inference"
we make.'
In other words:
- How do we know if something exists if it is unconscious?
- How can Erin know that 'Something can be conscious one moment and then can
be unconscious at another moment but it doesn't change from intellectual to
social levels.'? And ...
- How can I know anything about social patterns of values if they are
supposed to be unconscious?
The answer is essentially the same as the answer to the question:
- How can we know anything about the behavior of material things and
biological organisms if we can't experience consciously how they 'value'
behaving in specific ways?
We can simply experience the behavior of material things and biological
organisms from the outside and deduce their 'values'.
We know social patterns of values by observing patterns of behavior for
which we (or those we observe) have no (preceding) reasons.
Erin cannot know for sure that the value that is conscious at one moment
(experienced from within) is the same value that can be deduced from
(externally experienced, unmotivated) behavior at another moment.
We know that something exists if it is unconscious, because we need is as an
explanation for behavior which we cannot explain otherwise.
We CAN experience the unconsciousness ... from the outside.
With friendly greetings,
Wim
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