Re: MD What is SOM?

From: SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com
Date: Sat Jun 29 2002 - 10:33:35 BST


In a message dated 6/29/02 9:31:49 AM GMT Daylight Time,
onoffononoffon@hotmail.com writes:

> hey squonk,
>
> >My point is that algorithms which jump out of human intellect patterning
> >may
> >evolve to a stage of quality - quite in accordance with the Buddha - where
> >the pattern requires little help from mother humans?
>
> Elliot:
> well, it defies the nature of evolution to this point because AI does not
> include and transcend the levels below it, such as biology and society, it
> jumps straight from inorganic to level 5! maybe that's how it works.
> Regardless, the intellect must perfect itself as a level before it begins
> to
> support another, and i like Wilbers picture of what a more complete intel
> level would be like. i dont see AI fitting in the picture, but evolution
> need not be linear, it can go anywhere (with the Kosmos only demanding more
>
> freedom, not the specific form of that emancipated pattern).
>
> Only time will tell, i hope we live to see it, but i bet we wont.
> Elliot
>

Hi Elliot,
Your point about evolution being, 'Non linear' is interesting.
However, may i suggests that the emergence of AI and then its subsequent
moving away from human intellect (and by intellect i don't mean merely logic,
but that's another story) does fit the picture and it may be linear to use
your approach?

While moving towards independence AI may be put to use in many creative and
exciting ways?
Also, a vase made 3000 years ago may be viewed as a primitive artificial
memory accessible in a different time, place and culture?
If memory is the total sum of stable patterned experience then an ancient
vase, culture, CD-ROM have much in common?
Technology which memorises a method, say bows, looms, videos, PC's are
capable of duplication of sorts?
AI, one may suspect, would be a complex pattern of value capable of evolving
in accordance with dynamic quality. One of the facinating things about
computer software is that the computer itself is a programme - a point
emphasised by Pirsig in Lila.
Once dynamic quality has a chance to move and shake, anything may happen?

All the best,
Squonk.

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